I have written a number of articles on here telling the truth about what Chinese gold farmers are doing with the game Evony. What I wrote was the truth and is supported by massive evidence from elsewhere. They are just trying to bully me, for instance threatening to sue in Australia in order to make things as difficult as possible. And it is ironic that they try to use the legal system against me when they blatantly stole other people’s game mechanics and graphics in order to make Evony. Also I wonder if they are trying to be so heavy handed against the Guardian? And cheek of all cheeks they are trying to deny comment spamming this blog.
Here are the articles about Evony:
- Don’t play Evony.
- More about Evony.
- Is Evony malware?
- Evony advert ridiculed by PopCap.
- Queen of Evony competition.
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Astonishing to say the least. Chinese companies are, unsurprisingly, clearly not accustomed to free speech thinking they can get away with cheap legal bullying such as this. Someone please respond to them with multiple Cease & Desist letters ASAP, the games industry would be a much better place without Evony LLC and/or their Chinese owner.
That letter made me laugh so hard. And they trying to make you remove the content only makes it more believable…
Also I wonder if they are trying to be so heavy handed against the Guardian?
Yes they are. The article now has the following notice:
“This article is the subject of a legal complaint from Evony LLC.”
Now Evony’s lawyers will learn about the Streisand Effect.
@Ken
Exactly. This kind of bullying by Evony will only earn them more exposure and scorn from more corners.
It’s sick that they can use their ill gotten gain to silence criticism. They think they’ve gotten ripped before, they have no idea what they’ve just released.
Cheers Bruce, good luck and let us know how we can support you.
We of the general populace are proud of you for exposing this game for what it really is, a lame attempt to make money off of people who think by the advertisements that it is a pr0n site!
I blog about legal threats and their unintended consequences quite a bit. My post on this threat is here.
TBH, they cant really do anything whats to stop someone hosting there own site and publishing these articles there?
as for compensation, there is none you have done no physical harm to there reputation (they have done that themselves with their intrusive ads), the articles can be copied and pasted and put somewhere else, its not that hard.
and as for the formal apology… biggest load of shit ive seen!
and the second 3? (great one /facepalm)
they have no legal ground to stand on really.
In the interests of free speech feel free to copy and paste my Evony articles and the comments anywhere you want on the internet.
I’d tell them to “F*** O**” and see how they like it.
Come and have a go if you think your hard enough and all that talk.
Bollox to them and they communist so called ideals.
I came across your blog via the comment you left on cracked.com about slander. I’m glad I did!
I’m a hardcore gamer and although I prefer consoles to MMOs, I’ll be sure to pass this on to my gaming friends (of which I have MANY). Those idiots need to learn that the web is too massive for anyone to attempt to dictate and they have no business threatening to sue you.
Much love from the U.S.A.
Just send back a letter or email saying the following:
LOL.
That is all.
Sincerely,
Crocodile Dundee.
That should get them going.
I’ve just put this story on Digg & linked to it on my own blog at SetonStun.com (click the link on my name). We can Digg this
http://digg.com/gaming_news/Evony_want_to_sue_me_for_telling_the_truth
well it’s true, u’ve got a lot of posts against evony…
almost as if you want to shut it down, or… ur just trying to keep with it cause it is a hot topic that a lot of people like…
but yeah… i never new u could get sewed for junk like that…
i wounder how many people have even gotten sewed for giving bad game reviews…
Bruce, they’ve handed you a golden opportunity. Send ‘em an equally long legal letter detailing their nefarious business practices and demand they present proof in their defense. If they cannot prove your claims false, they must immediately cease and desist advertising for Evony. The gaming world will be forever in your debt.
Keep up the good work, Bruce. The Streisand Effect has kicked in and it’s on just about every gaming news and industry website at this point. Gawker’s even run a piece on it.
Every DAMN website I go to has an Evony Ad. They are especially NSFW and I have to be careful when opening a site.
Is there a way I can block the Ads specifically from Evony LLC? Thanks!
An offence must be heard in either the jurisdiction of your home or where the offence was committed. As you can’t be tried in the internet, I’d believe it’s where you wrote it . . . likely in your home.
Unless they sue through your local justice area it is either inadmissible in court, or a frivolous suit. Either way, you have no fear, Australian Courts have no jurisdiction over any other country, (remember for the UK your legal jurisdiction goes local, national and then European and only in that order) and I believe the courts of New South Wales only have jurisdiction to hear offences committed in the Jurisdiction of New South Wales and no where else (like courts everywhere).
I’d consult a lawyer, if you haven’t already, but I’m sure you have nothing to fear, defamation certainly IS NOT heard by a supreme court. At worst get your lawyer to send a letter requesting dismissal through the New South Wales courts citing wrong jurisdiction.
Unfortunately for you some US owned, Chinese-based game developer is trying to sue you in a god-awful desert like Australia . . . I suppose at worst you’ll never be able to visit the Kangaroo’s in their native habitat, what a loss. . .
Ha, they have the nerve to sue when their whole game is built around copyright infringement and deceptive advertising.
Send back a letter that says:
“Dearest scum of the internet,
In order for something I said to qualify as defamation, it needs to be both:
1. False, and
2. Stated as a fact.
Most of what you have taken issue with are stated as my opinions and journalistic review. The rest are facts that I can, and have, verified (ie: we receive spam advertising your game almost non-stop).
Please finish your Juris Doctorate before playing lawyer.
Sincerely,
Freedom of the press”
Game mechanics and graphics cannot be stolen, only copied. There is a difference. (’Stolen’ is when a person’s property is taken and they no longer possess it.)
Your comment about trusting software is a good point but it’s not a point you need to raise when you critize Evony as it takes away value from the evidence you do have.
Drop the hyperbole and stick to the facts, leave the rest for the clowns who don’t know better. Please keep up the updates, we all appreciate them!
Please (I forgot to say please)
I’m going to sue you! …..IN AUSTRALIA! *durn dern durrnnnn!*
This is indeed interesting. Looks like the gloves are off. I wonder how it will develop from here.
Seems harsh for them to cite Chaos Engine postings, do they have access on there? I am not sure how you can be sued for postings on a private site not open to the general public!
Chris, i got this from adsense official blog, hope this help us:
AdSensePro Policy
Hi everyone — thanks for your patience so far. We’ve received all of your feedback and have looked into your concerns. Any Evony ads should now point only to evonyonline.com, so having evonyonline.com on your filter list should now effectively block all Evony ads. If you still see ads after adding this URL to your filter (and it’s been over 48 hours since you’ve added it), reply to this thread and we’ll look into it.
“but yeah… i never new u could get sewed for junk like that…
i wounder how many people have even gotten sewed for giving bad game reviews…”
You can’t. It’s why you’ve never heard of a case. They can try ALLLLLL they like. Bruce is protected by a ton of laws himself, and it’s not up to him to prove his innocence. In fact, I had a similar issue occur in the past, and they wanted me to travel to Europe. I don’t have that kind of cash, and basically told them they could fund my vacation (all inclusive of course) so I could go to court and laugh at them.
The very fact that they want to prosecute from another country is usually enough to laugh at the charge. You don’t abide by THEIR laws.
United we fight, United to topple down the Evony empire!
Also check out my article at http://www.mmogrindhouse.com/game-news/bizarre/evony-com-threats-bloggers-dont-criticise-our-game-or-well-sue/
I will spread the word. This will be the worst advertising campaign Evony can ever imagine. Hopefully the last one.
. Keep up the honest reviews.
The great thing about that letter is that it boils down and puts into neatly concise terms, all the atrocities and horrors purpurtrated by Evony.
Quite useful really. Thank you Mssrs Warren, McKeon and Dickson.
This reminds me much of the McLiable civil suit case in which McDonalds sued a group of activists. Although McDonalds did win some of its points and a judgement of I think $26,000 (I forget if it is in pounds of dollars), but spent $14million (dollars) on the case.
I think the judgement was finally over turned by taking the case to the European Union. That is something those Chinese should review.
But yes, I have played Civony (prior to the name change of Evony) and saw the copyinfringements of the graphics and game mechanics.
Those who do not believe in the law of copyright now seek to use the law to defend their illegally made game. Copyright infringement occurs when “the intent” to use copyrighted material without permission is done. Thus would form a good case to discredit them.
Keep on fighting!
Truth is a 100% defense. That’s what those “lawyers” don’t get.
Rage on, brother. I’m tired of Evony crap everywhere I look.
I’m studying law in Qld, which is similar to the law of NSW. The Supreme court is NSW can have jurisdiction to hear a matter concerning a defendant from a foreign jurisdiction. Have a look at Gutnick v Dow Jones, I have written an article on my blog about this one (http://maclawstudent.blogspot.com/2008/03/gutnick-v-dow-jones-vs-macquarie-bank.html). Basically the High Court held that Gutnick (an Australian citizen) could sue Dow Jones (based in NY I believe) as the damage to Gutnick’s reputation occured in Victoria when subscribers in Victoria to the online magazine published by Dow Jones read a defamatory article about Gutnick.
However, if you don’t show up, Evony then have to get leave of the court to hear the matter (they look at whether Australia is an appropriate jurisdiction to hear the matter etc.) and even then, unless you have assets in the jurisdiction, there is not a lot Evony can do. Unless you are suing in the defendants jurisdiction, it is often difficult to enforce an order of the court.
I too cannot stand those Evony ads, I applaud you for taking a stand against them.
Also wanted to add that defamation has the defence of truth in Australia
I really don’t want to be seen as being on the side of EvonyOnline, but I wouldn’t be so flippant with this.
I’m not a lawyer, but I have studied some media law, and there are some things you should be aware of.
The Australian high court ruling of Dow Jones V Gutnick (http://www.austlii.edu.au/au/cases/cth/high_ct/2002/56.html) established that someone could be liable for defamation in Australia even if the article was published outside of Australia.
So don’t listen to the ignorant posters who say these laws don’t apply – they do.
Australia doesn’t have the same protections of freedom of speech as other countries, and being part of the commonwealth, as a UK resident you could be summoned to face any court action by extradition if the case proceeds.
As to the burden of proof, the onus is on you to prove every accusation you’ve published, plus under NSW law you also have to prove it was published in the public interest.
There’s a wealth of information on defamation, the internet and Australian law on http://www.efa.org.au/Issues/Censor/defamation.html#truth
I do think this is just bluster to scare you into taking your posts down, but if I were you, I’d be talking to my lawyers, just in case.
Evony… what have you got yourself into now?
Ripped off it may be, I don’t know anything about that stuff or the Civilization series. Aside from their much-too-strong encouragement to spend every dollar you have and then some on their browser game, it is decent. I’ll never give them a nickel, even if that ad crawled down my pants. Still a good time waster though =)
They really need to stop it with the “Save the Queen with the Massive Jugs” campaign though. There is no Queen quest in it, no Queen period. All you do is build up an army and attack other players, get medals, upgrade buildings and build more armies.
Stop putting eroticism in your ads! It doesn’t exist in the actual game!
You should put up a paypal donation link for your legal defense fund… A bully always runs from a fight.
But you gotta admit, that set of boobs is pretty hot. Don’t you want access to those boobs?
Hello,
I’ve studied defamation law. Never practiced it however. I am up to date with Australias current defamation laws and they could most likely commence proceedings against you. You’ll need approximately 70-100k to play ball with them but even if they were to succeed they’d most likely only be awarded 250k as 2006 legislation caps damages at this amount. They could be awarded more if they could prove special damages such as economic loss but that kind of loss in this context would be indeterminable and therefor courts would be reluctant to grant it.
Truth as others have mentioned is a complete defence to defamation. That the sting of the imputation is substantially true will suffice. As for the defence of opinion, well that’s not all it’s cracked up to be. It’s not as easy to prove as you might think.
Also anyone else who publishes your information will be just as guilty of defamation as you are so i would discourage you from advising others to reproduce your work. Seek legal advice and rephrase the allegedly defamatory phrases to avoid all doubt.
Better safe than sued.
- Regards, Dosky.
There are some evony addicts above me ^
get a life, evony sucks
After reading your articles, it appears as though you have done everything that Evony says you did in their letter. Are you saying that you didn’t, or are you saying that you shouldn’t be accountable for your actions? I’m sure that if I wrote a series of articles saying that you “might” have plagiarized your writings, and “may have” embezzled funds from the Guardian, I’d be able to hear your screams on this side of the Atlantic. And as for the ads, sex sells. The Sun realizes that, even if the Guardian hasn’t figured it out yet.
Evony Online sucks. Since when does a person get sued for putting his views forward? If they think they’re right, shouldn’t they be sending forward a spokesperson representing their company instead of a lawfirm?
Wow… Just wow. Evony can go screw themselves from the way I see it. Keep it up Bruce, I hate Evony with a passion, as I nearly lost my job due to their ads.
ha ha ha… good thing i come across this blog,i wouldn’t want to put my email or my personal information to register something like this. me money be mine!
well… its obvious enough what they are saying. they “did not” do any of this, some ninja spammed, ripped off, etc, and this lawyer firm thinks that they are still talking about evony/wowmine, as opposed to some other company of fail.
oh, and @dosker, evony is not trying to pillage the ship, they are trying to sink it.
Well I’m not sure whether you are completely aware of your freedoms, freedom of speech doesn’t really allow you to disrupt free trade, if you have a complaint about a company write a letter to the BBB. But by writing blogs and getting a bunch of followers to agree with your nonsense that is liable if written and slander if spoken. I would suggest getting a good lawyer and/or winning the lottery.
BTW where is your proof that Evony has any affiliation with WoWMine or this Eric Lam fellow. So far all I have seen are skeptic remarks toward Evony.
This is the first RTS game I have played so, I don’t know if it similar to any other RTS, but really, RTS isn’t rocket science, I’m sure anyone with programming knowledge could develop one with the right concept and ideas.
I’m sorry you got yourself into this mess by “trash talking” a game developer, perhaps this will teach you a valuable lesson on what to say or not say. Sure you can state your opinion, but without facts to support your theory, its all just a bunch of rubbish.
Everyone should put “evonyonline.com” in their Google AdSense competitive adfilter.
I did.
I am delighted to learn that Warren McKeon Dickenson has confirmed that Evony LLC is an incorporated company within the United States. As you can see from the whois, Evony LLC is acting under proxy http://www.whois.net/whois/evony.com. The Go Daddy registrar https://who.godaddy.com/WhoIs.aspx?domain=evony.com&prog_id=godaddy indicates that this server address is running through:
DomainsByProxy.com
15111 N. Hayden Rd., Ste 160, PMB 353
Scottsdale, Arizona 85260
United States
The Domains By Proxy website can be located here http://www.domainsbyproxy.com/.
By reading the Domains By Proxy “Legal Issues” located in the far right tab it states:
—
Agreements: When you purchase Domains By Proxy’s services, you agree to all the terms and conditions contained in our Proxy Agreement, Privacy Policy and Anti-Spam Policy. If you can’t agree to the terms contained in our agreements, do not use our services. We reserve the right to revise our agreements at anytime.
Prohibitions: Domains By Proxy is not intended to be used to protect your identity if you:
- Transmit spam, viruses or harmful computer programes;
- Violate the law or infringe a third party’s trademark or copyright;
- Engage in morally objectionable activities, including but not limited to those which are child pornographic, defamatory, abusive, harassing, obscene, racist, or otherwise objectable.
Protections: Registrations are insured against loss by our Liability Insurance and backed by you Registrar’s Guarantee!
—
The Policy Agreement that Evony LLC have entered into with Domains By Proxy states that they must agree to all the terms and conditions. Given the evidence that exists against Evony if would appear that they are in violation of their contractual terms with Domains By Proxy on numerous accounts.
In addition, and most interestingly, Domains By Proxy state:
“If you are receiving spam, viruses, or other harmful computer programs from a domain name held by Domains By Proxy [Such as Evony], please contact the hosting provider and/or the registrar for immediate assistance. If the registrar and/or hosting provider is not responsive to your complaint, you can contact us by email at abuse@domainsbyproxy.com”
The registrar for Evony.com is Go Daddy. So, Domains By Proxy are asking users to email Go Daddy to complain. That is very inconsiderate of them, I am sure Go Daddy will not appreciate a high volume of complaints from people around the world who are tired of the Evony adverts. But here is the address that Domains By Proxy are directing people to complain to http://www.godaddy.com/gdshop/spamreport/spamreport.asp?isc=goazu2001a&ci=9077. While you are there you may wish to view Bob Parsons video blogs http://www.bobparsons.me/index.php. These are actually very good because few CEOs take such an active interest in their business as Bob Parsons, who also happens to be an ex Marine. Episode 27 appears to be very relevant as it deals with search engine advertising. You can even place a comment on there for him to read.
Go Daddy 2009 commercial
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1YWHtGU6zhA
A tip for Bob Parson, Rule number 17: Don’t allow any domain name registered through your company, Go Daddy, to place your online reputation at risk, especially when the Evony.com’s CEO, Eric Lam, has been sued by Microsoft for $750,000 because he has been found guilty of click fraud http://www.nytimes.com/2009/06/16/business/media/16adco.html.
AC
many appologies if this question seems intrusive bruce,
(feel free to ignore it , for no offence is intended or implied)
but can you afford the time /effort / cost of going to Australia and legally ripping them a new a***hole?
…more to the point , is there anything we can do to help ?
ohh , while i think of it, microprose published civ2 , am digging through my games collection to see who published civ 4
( if any know offhand who published civ4 feel free to chip in)
may i humbley suggest notifying the games publishers of this case, and see if they wish to back (ie fund you ) in this , since it is their ( or their clients) IP that has been stolen in the first place?
i’m UK based , and a full time single dad,and have a degree in product design and management, so i know a little about IP’s and copyrights.. if you want anyone to do some ground work/ leg work on this , please feel free to E-mail me to discuss how you might like me to help.
Just tell them they can suck it.
As Microsoft is taking legal action against the director of Evony for click fraud the Foreign Commonwealth Office http://ukinaustralia.fco.gov.uk/en/ and the Australian British Chamber of Commerce http://www.britishchamber.com/home should be notified that potential fraudulent accusations are being made through an Australian law firm to British companies, including the British media. This is being done on behalf of concern that appears to be setting offices up all around the world. Possibly in the bedrooms of minors claiming to be adults.
It should of course be born in mind that Evony’s legal representatives are bound to codes of conduct. If these have been breached then they could face disciplinary action. However, to my mind Warren McKeon Dickson are not gaming consultants like Mr Everiss nor are they media specialists like the Guardian, as such they can only rely on what their client chooses to share with them. But I have a distinct feeling that they will regret taking the decision to accept this particularly client, because I can smell judicial reviews, public enquires and police involvement. If criminal activity has transpired, representatives of Warren McKeon Dickson could be called to give evidence in a number of countries.
It should be pointed out that Mr Everiss’ comments in all the points raised are fair. However, he has actually omitted to mention a few important points about Evony. For the record I will list some of them here. Mr Everiss of course does not have to accept these. Rather I will allow him to exercise his professionalism as he sees fit:
- Evony is not age certified;
- Evony is played by minors (namely children) and adults;
- Evony has no parental controls and can be played without independent verification and consent from parents;
- Evony has no child protection policy;
- Evony does not have a harassment policy;
- Evony advertises that it can be played secretly, thereby inferring it can be used on company and public service computers without violating any existing statutes;
- Evony uses the allure of sex to attract users to an environment that is filled with minors;
- Evony does not list its company address, rather it hides behind a proxy;
- Evony staff are not listed as having been screened for child protection;
- Evony downloads files into the computer and as such breach their claims that it can be played secretly;
- Evony offers no safety warnings to children;
- Evony employs its users to manage its forums and engage in other areas relevant to game control, the ages of these people are unverified. As such it may be in breach of child labour laws in some states;
- Evony, unlike other games, is played 24/7. This means its users are prone to internet games addiction;
- Evony has no warnings over excessive play;
- Evony demands 24/7 play, because users monitor to see when people sleep and then attack them, this promotes anxiety;
- Evony employs the use of a roulette wheel where one can gamble real money for virtual goods;
- Evony’s growth rate is unnaturally high compared with other RTS browser games like Travian and Tribal Wars that are of the same genre;
- Evony accounts do require a substantial financial commitment compared with other RTS games.
Comparison: As I have played Real Time Strategy (RTS) for over five years at a competitive level the price index to play a core position is approximately:
Tribal Wars – £2 to 5 a week. This is for premium along with gifting premiums;
Travian – £5 to 20 a week. This is for faster building;
Evony – £20-100 a week. This is mainly for medals and continuous builds, but the price would drop once one has obtained the maximum number of settlements. However, by advertising the game one can usually obtain game benefits, in other words Evony has paid minors to advertise their game through offering them virtual rewards. This is because minors do not hold credit cards).
In contrast first person games only cost their registration and monthly fees. Very cheap in contrast but sadly not a real game, more of an arcade experience. This is why people will pay to play RTS;
- Evony has been designed to maximise financial profit. From my experience most of my money was spent on using the roulette wheel to gamble for game items;
- Evony does not claim their product has a gambling mechanism;
- Evony does not hold a gambling licence;
- Evony encourages minors to gamble;
Hopefully this may allow the readers here to see that the claims being made against Mr Everiss should have been much longer. In this context the claims being made about Evony have not really started. The reason being is that Evony is a social networking website too, because people do use the game to contact others. As there are so many minors within Evony and because the allure of sex is used to attract people to the game, it may be worth understanding a little more about social networking sites.
The Megan Meier story CNN (Now driving US legislation)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HFsfDLCkfQU
The Alicia Kozakiewicz Testimony (Now assisting law enforcement)
1. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cyUnAcxo8NQ
2. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vGdldKxPock
Virtual Global Taskforce (Part of an international law enforcement initiative – Ironically active in both the UK and Australia)
http://www.virtualglobaltaskforce.com/
Given that legal charges for fraud have been issue by Microsoft against the director of Evony, adults need to ensure that they are satisfied Evony is a safe product for their children to use. As for any adults that play, they should be wise enough to make their own decisions. I made mine before Mr Everiss even addressed this issue. He is of course quite correct in his claims and thousands of users can confirm this. However, as their addresses will exist on the Evony servers, one has to say what is the likelihood of this material being lost? Well at least PayPal will be holding the addresses and evidence of those that have paid money to play Evony. I smell court orders, but I do not think Mr Everiss will be the one that will be issuing them.
Incidentally, does anyone here know if there is a game in existence based on this character http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UznxI3Z4NU8.
AC
aha! here we go….
taken from the civ4 complete handbook.
…and i quote
“copyright 2005-2007 take-two interactive software and it’s susidiaries. developed by firaxis games. sid meiers’s civilization IV:beyond the sword,sid meiers’s civilization IV:warlords,sid meiers’s civilization IV, civ,civilization, 2K games, the 2K logo, firaxis games, the firaxis game logo and take-two interactive software are all trademarks and/or registered trademarks of take-two interactive software, inc, in the USA and other countries. Certified on XPS 410 and M1710. XPS is a registered trademark of Dell, inc.”
/end quote.
websites : http://www.take2games.co.uk
: http://www.2kgames.co.uk
snail-mail : 2K Europe,
Saxon House
2-4 Victoria Street
Windsor
Berkshire
SL4 1EN, UK
now… as it happens , i’m holding the paper work to the 1980 board game too. it was made by gibson games and was
“made under licence from Hartland Trefoil Lts, northampton, England copyright 1980 and 1988 F.G. Tresham”
although thinking about it, the logical thing to do would be to write back to the lawyers and ask them 2 simple questions.
“dear sirs,
1) have you played any of the “Sid Meiers: Civilization” games … and SPECIFICALLY, “civilization4″ ?
2)have you played “Evony” ? or as it was called a little while ago until they “re-branded” it…”Civony”
yours, sincerely…”
at which point, hopefully they’ll drop the case like a hot potato.
you might want to include the bit above about Take-Two holding the copyright as well
They are just a typical chinese company, money hungry and out to find gold any way they can. However, posting an article about something especially regarding the spam and deceiving advertising the game employs in ones right, I can put Evony LLC sucks my fat C*** all over my website and they could do nothing about it
Let em try to use their scare tactic, they will eventually realize they are wasting their time.
Keep up the good work. I’m proud to see somebody fighting the good fight on the internet.
You may benefit from sending the story over to the Aussie media. Im sure that like me, a lot of aussies would be upset about being used as a bullying tool.
Also, you should talk to your solicitor about the threat of litigation, as from memory there is a treaty between the United Kingdom and Australia for the enforcement of judgments.
Good luck from down under
Holy Cree-ist!! I have seen more than a hundred of these Evony ads in a week, and decided to check it out, the ads are IN MY OPINION, very deceptive and more than misleading, I was expecting some sort of sexy babe thing, duh!. I googled it and found this site along with dozens of others all giving the downlow on the Evony BS,… The only positive info comes from their own bogus websites. You go Bruce !! These guys need to be exposed. Glad I found out before I signed on for it, not wanting to waste my time on some bunk copycat schitzoid gold farming game developers and all that.
Mr. Everiss is correct.
I have played Evony since the “Civony” days. I have spent no money. I recently stared on a second server to discover minor changes that make the concept of “free forever” laughable. If you want to excel in this game you’re increasingly nudged to spending money. This game is a money grab. Administration makes no effort in addressing ever present problems. Examples: Use of racist and sexist commentary, unannounced changes to game mechanics to make it more difficult to aquire necessary items without spending money, and constant marketing “begging” for money.
Change the name of this game from Evony-Free Forever to Evony-Scamming Credit Card numbers from Minors
Silly lawyers. FREE SPEECH.
Seriously though, I would take a picture of my middle finger, and find the chinese characters for “F*** You” and send it back, enclosed with a “Have a nice day.”
That’s just me though.
I can give you some chinese characters of F-you
I’ll make an image of it 
)…Evony is just too much, PERVERTED stupid di**s. I hope ALL ads perverted or clean be removed forever. It pisses me off alot seeing boobs alota timese >_<
“an offer to pay compensation for loss”
So what they’re saying is; how dare you say that we’re just exploiting people for money when we’re not, and since you say that, you gotta’ give us money, otherwise we’re gonna’ sue you for freedom of speech.
Do they not see the irony of what they’re doing, that they expect you to offer them money not to sue you….the last time I checked, that was Blackmail, you should ask them for a very hefty cheque, just to ensure that it doesnm’t reach the courts about their illegal actions
UR WILL WIN THE CASE
lowl! This is hilarious. Just the fact that they are suing you makes me want to play even less. Way to go Evony! I guess they have never heard of FREE SPEECH! You know… being able to express you opinions, no matter what they are.
I just think it’s funny that the ads are over-run with scantily clad women, and has NOTHING to do with actual gameplay. So sad. Fight the good fight!
http://www.efa.org.au
Defamation Act 2005 NSW – see s 9.
Let us know if you have to go to court! I’m sure there’ll be support.
I can’t believe it…
Thumbs up from my stumble account. We need to get rid of these trashy unintegral Chinese companies.
Wow, they are repetitive. The word Evony just became mush by the end of the letter.
Haha brilliant letter. Part1: We know your Eclectic. Part2: you said x, y & z. and then Part3:… can you comfirm you’re eclectic. Hopeless legal letter writing from chinese fraudsters who rely on big pictures of breasts and cloning other popular games to make yen an push malware..Uh oh…someones at the door….
Scumbags. I love how they think that suing/legal action is a good way to get a result on the web.
Erm, worked really well for the MPAA/RIAA’s public relations, didn’t it?
Sort the issues, don’t sue those who mention them!
I agree with everyone about these ads and Bruce’s assessment of them is spot on, but let’s not insinuate the Chinese people as a whole for the actions of a few. That would be plain ignorance.
Bruce, Im behind you all the way here. The failures at evony are way out of hand.
1: Copying sprites from AOE
2: False Advertising with photos stolen from models and shopped up.
3: Ievony Malware
4: Going against advertising TOS
5: Creating and advertising from multiple domains
6: Using illigal IP modification software, so evony adds cannot be banned via IP.
7: Using multiple email accounts to spam people with advertisements.
8: Removing all posts questioning this on their forums
9: Lying to the public legaly
10: Sueing people for finding out the truth
IF YOU HATE EVONY TOO, POST THIS IN YOUR SIGNITURES-
[Evony - Fails forever, my lord.]
evony have done it again, theyve created a new game with age of empires 3 stuff in it look >> http://2.napwar.com exactly like evony. OMG
@david
Whilst napwar plays a lot like Evony there is no evidence that it comes from the same people.
bs, they cant sue you for using free speech
SILENCE AMERICAN!
HOW DARE YOU INSULT EVONY! OUR GAME IS THE VERY GREAT AND FUN! WE NO RELY OR BE WORKING WITH GOLD FARMERS OR “INTERNETS FAUDSTERS”!
I be reminding you our game is CREATIVE and FRESH and NOT RIPPED OFF!…Just like all MADE IN CHINA products!
We will be suing you in AUSTRALIA! Where you be facing the might of our KANGAROO COURTS!
*Evil laughter* YOU CANNOT STOP US AMERICAN! RESISTANCE IS FUTILE! YOUR WEAPONS ARE USELESS AGAINST OUR MINDLESS LEGIONS OF LAWYERS AND GOLD FARMERS! ALL YOUR BASES ARE BELONG TO US!
LONG LIVE CHINA! LONG LIVE CHAIRMAN MAO! LONG LIVE EVONY AND BAD GAMING!
Keep up the Fight, Mate. These idiots can’t get away with this Deal too much longer.
Some of the Posters in here are Absolutely brilliant Too… I salute all who Oppose this Shitty Online Game.
hahaha… what a funny page this is.
i’ve been seeing these idiotic Evony adds for a couple weeks… decided to see whats up and i found this nice thread.
there is no doubt that Evony, and other games like it that it will come out in the future; are created with a purpose in mind. specifically something like Evony which is enshrouded in fraud.
we can only guess at what the reasons are… but if we use “problem-reaction-solution” we could infer that these obvious examples of internet misuse are deliberately created so that
a) we think we are unsafe from ‘cybercrime’
b) we get tricked into demanding censorship over the internet; which will simply be used against us.
think about parents of kids… if they’re fooled into demanding some kind of ‘national oversight’ of the internet then its going to become the Corponet.
dont look at this moronic game as simply a ‘moronic game’.
Should be ‘wants to sue’ no?
Why dont you sue them back? Tell them to get their ass to Europe. And umm i dont get the dean
principal part at end of letter.
Plus if they are trying to sue you for insulting evony does that mean anyone who agrees with you/insults evony here can get sued too?
Besides can u get sued for saying Evony adds are offensive and intrusive spam? If people think it is then the statement is true.
Dont take my word for any of this.
This game is a bad ripoff of travian. I just hope you win in course. If you dont it will prove me humanity failed once more.
sorry for a double comment but do you live there or they just sue you there?
This was interesting to read. I better watch out cuz I made a video about it that is getting high view counts cuz I used boobs in my thumbnail and tags.
Here is the video I made about Evony Ads… http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=y_S6R55d_gw
I briefly played Evony when it first started. It had only been up for a few days and was still called Civony. All accusations made on this site are absolutely true. The original name is a blatant rip-off. All the early graphics where blatant rip-offs. It got my email hijacked. While I never spent any money on it, I had several guild mates that had their paid for items disappear.
Looks like it’s true and in the public interest to me. I wouldn’t be worried. You could just collect testimonies from people who have played. (y) =)
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