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	<title>Comments on: Stopping online theft</title>
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		<title>By: anonymous</title>
		<link>http://www.bruceongames.com/2009/05/14/stopping-online-theft/comment-page-1/#comment-4601</link>
		<dc:creator>anonymous</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 04 Jun 2009 11:09:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>let them come. smart people will leech to their offshore servers and download the goods through an encrypted connection.

also, kriss, sorry to piss on your bonfire, but many mmorpgs are pirated, not to mention online shooters and what have you. i don&#039;t really care for mmorpgs nowadays but when i did i&#039;d always played on free servers.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>let them come. smart people will leech to their offshore servers and download the goods through an encrypted connection.</p>
<p>also, kriss, sorry to piss on your bonfire, but many mmorpgs are pirated, not to mention online shooters and what have you. i don&#8217;t really care for mmorpgs nowadays but when i did i&#8217;d always played on free servers.</p>
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		<title>By: Jurrie</title>
		<link>http://www.bruceongames.com/2009/05/14/stopping-online-theft/comment-page-1/#comment-4498</link>
		<dc:creator>Jurrie</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 16 May 2009 06:21:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>too many people are translating copyright into the &#039;right to copy&#039;....

Not sure if this French way will be the solution, but it is frightning to see how many goverments have not spoken out and done anything helpful in the last decade to control this problem, which seems to have spon out of control already.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>too many people are translating copyright into the &#8216;right to copy&#8217;&#8230;.</p>
<p>Not sure if this French way will be the solution, but it is frightning to see how many goverments have not spoken out and done anything helpful in the last decade to control this problem, which seems to have spon out of control already.</p>
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		<title>By: Robin</title>
		<link>http://www.bruceongames.com/2009/05/14/stopping-online-theft/comment-page-1/#comment-4484</link>
		<dc:creator>Robin</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 15 May 2009 02:57:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>How many games, films or songs will the French consumers condemned (on the flimsiest evidence) by the entertainment industry be able to buy without internet access? It&#039;s a truly idiotic law.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>How many games, films or songs will the French consumers condemned (on the flimsiest evidence) by the entertainment industry be able to buy without internet access? It&#8217;s a truly idiotic law.</p>
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		<title>By: Steve Heath</title>
		<link>http://www.bruceongames.com/2009/05/14/stopping-online-theft/comment-page-1/#comment-4482</link>
		<dc:creator>Steve Heath</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 14 May 2009 18:41:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>As a user who actually buys all his DVD&#039;s, games, and would buy CD&#039;s if I still listened to them (life is so busy the only music I listen to is what&#039;s playing on the radio during the daily commute), I can fully sympathize with the content industries wanting to blackball repeat offenders.  The only issue I have with some of these three strikes laws is that they have no burden of proof whatsoever, and as we have seen in some of the RIAA suits, some content owners don&#039;t really care about actually getting the people doing it, as long as someone pays.  There has to be a check in there to maintain &quot;innocent until proven guilty&quot;, but in exchange... make it like driving offenses.  First offense:  30 day ban from the net.  Second offense: 3 month ban.  Third offense: Whatever, 5 year/life ban from the net.  And if the content creator has falsely accused someone, they pay all court costs and a set penalty to the accused (say $2000) to prevent carpet-bombing from being too cheap.

Until there is some checks to prevent anyone and their brother from claiming someone offended with no proof the result will be disasterous, with everyone &quot;anonymously&quot; reporting on people to get their access cut off for many nefarious reasons.  Hmm, our company requires net access from home for all our employees to connect to the network... hit a few of them with the three strikes game and boom, they&#039;re fired.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>As a user who actually buys all his DVD&#8217;s, games, and would buy CD&#8217;s if I still listened to them (life is so busy the only music I listen to is what&#8217;s playing on the radio during the daily commute), I can fully sympathize with the content industries wanting to blackball repeat offenders.  The only issue I have with some of these three strikes laws is that they have no burden of proof whatsoever, and as we have seen in some of the RIAA suits, some content owners don&#8217;t really care about actually getting the people doing it, as long as someone pays.  There has to be a check in there to maintain &#8220;innocent until proven guilty&#8221;, but in exchange&#8230; make it like driving offenses.  First offense:  30 day ban from the net.  Second offense: 3 month ban.  Third offense: Whatever, 5 year/life ban from the net.  And if the content creator has falsely accused someone, they pay all court costs and a set penalty to the accused (say $2000) to prevent carpet-bombing from being too cheap.</p>
<p>Until there is some checks to prevent anyone and their brother from claiming someone offended with no proof the result will be disasterous, with everyone &#8220;anonymously&#8221; reporting on people to get their access cut off for many nefarious reasons.  Hmm, our company requires net access from home for all our employees to connect to the network&#8230; hit a few of them with the three strikes game and boom, they&#8217;re fired.</p>
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		<title>By: Donncha O Caoimh</title>
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		<dc:creator>Donncha O Caoimh</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 14 May 2009 12:13:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Here in Ireland, Eircom (the incumbent telecom operator) settled with the recording industry and will operate a 3 strikes and you&#039;re out system.
Record companies can give them Irish IP addresses to be warned or banned for file sharing.

Many are of course up in arms about this but it&#039;ll become the norm.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Here in Ireland, Eircom (the incumbent telecom operator) settled with the recording industry and will operate a 3 strikes and you&#8217;re out system.<br />
Record companies can give them Irish IP addresses to be warned or banned for file sharing.</p>
<p>Many are of course up in arms about this but it&#8217;ll become the norm.</p>
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		<title>By: Kriss</title>
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		<dc:creator>Kriss</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 14 May 2009 10:16:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Actually games have this problem totally solved, you might not like the solution but it is a fixed problem and it has been for a very long time.

It doesn&#039;t need any new laws.

It&#039;s not even that hard to accomplish.

You just run the game on a server you control.

No one steals WOW. In fact no one steals *ANY* server based game service and you don&#039;t have to pay nintendo/microsoft/apple/etc for the privilege of running one.

As for movies and music, they are simply of no concern to me. I make games. Movies and music are old media and they have had their time.

The proposals you are supporting and championing are in fact detrimental to games and the future of the games industry. Please stop.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Actually games have this problem totally solved, you might not like the solution but it is a fixed problem and it has been for a very long time.</p>
<p>It doesn&#8217;t need any new laws.</p>
<p>It&#8217;s not even that hard to accomplish.</p>
<p>You just run the game on a server you control.</p>
<p>No one steals WOW. In fact no one steals *ANY* server based game service and you don&#8217;t have to pay nintendo/microsoft/apple/etc for the privilege of running one.</p>
<p>As for movies and music, they are simply of no concern to me. I make games. Movies and music are old media and they have had their time.</p>
<p>The proposals you are supporting and championing are in fact detrimental to games and the future of the games industry. Please stop.</p>
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