Comments on: The Xbox 360 surges ahead http://www.bruceongames.com/2008/11/21/the-xbox-360-surges-ahead/ A veteran's view on marketing games Fri, 23 Sep 2011 19:01:38 +0000 hourly 1 By: Ant http://www.bruceongames.com/2008/11/21/the-xbox-360-surges-ahead/comment-page-1/#comment-3764 Ant Mon, 24 Nov 2008 13:28:55 +0000 http://www.bruceongames.com/?p=1121#comment-3764 You know, Wii piracy is pretty rampant as well, in various forms. 360 is my platform of choice, but I own a Wii and a DS as well. I'm sure I'll get a PS3 at some point also, but not until it's a lot cheaper. You know, Wii piracy is pretty rampant as well, in various forms.

360 is my platform of choice, but I own a Wii and a DS as well. I’m sure I’ll get a PS3 at some point also, but not until it’s a lot cheaper.

]]> By: corn dog http://www.bruceongames.com/2008/11/21/the-xbox-360-surges-ahead/comment-page-1/#comment-3760 corn dog Mon, 24 Nov 2008 05:47:57 +0000 http://www.bruceongames.com/?p=1121#comment-3760 95% of the time the 360 has better graphics on game that are on both systems, and he didn't mention that. So I would say he could have said a lot more in favor of the 360. The biggest publisher is EA and take two. Then Square, which has switched to making most of their exclusives on the 360, except in Japan. You can go to several sites and see that 360 has the most exclusives and three times the amount of million sellers (www.wikipedia.com). I think the next NPD numbers will show that he is correct just like last year Microsoft pushes the current titles coming out to sell machines. Sony is still pushing 'potential' for games do in the future. When will they stop, when the PS4 comes out? If they could not keep up before when 360 was having RROD problems what will they do now with it fixed? And machines becoming cheaper? Unless there is a PS3 supprise price drop this season, I think the PS4 is RIGHT around the corner. One more year, this season they will get more than beat. They have already released thier big fish (MGS4) early this year. Resistance is not in the gears league. Where are the rpg's? Where is one decent turn based rpg for the ps3 that is not already out for 360? When there is one it will be worth getting. And speaking of konami they did just say they are working on something big for 360. And those numbers where they got the most from ps3, that was LAST quarter. It was do to release schedule. That is not repeating. And it was only two publishers out of hundreds. 95% of the time the 360 has better graphics on game that are on both systems, and he didn’t mention that. So I would say he could have said a lot more in favor of the 360. The biggest publisher is EA and take two. Then Square, which has switched to making most of their exclusives on the 360, except in Japan. You can go to several sites and see that 360 has the most exclusives and three times the amount of million sellers (www.wikipedia.com). I think the next NPD numbers will show that he is correct just like last year Microsoft pushes the current titles coming out to sell machines. Sony is still pushing ‘potential’ for games do in the future. When will they stop, when the PS4 comes out? If they could not keep up before when 360 was having RROD problems what will they do now with it fixed? And machines becoming cheaper? Unless there is a PS3 supprise price drop this season, I think the PS4 is RIGHT around the corner. One more year, this season they will get more than beat. They have already released thier big fish (MGS4) early this year. Resistance is not in the gears league. Where are the rpg’s? Where is one decent turn based rpg for the ps3 that is not already out for 360? When there is one it will be worth getting. And speaking of konami they did just say they are working on something big for 360. And those numbers where they got the most from ps3, that was LAST quarter. It was do to release schedule. That is not repeating. And it was only two publishers out of hundreds.

]]> By: Robin http://www.bruceongames.com/2008/11/21/the-xbox-360-surges-ahead/comment-page-1/#comment-3757 Robin Sat, 22 Nov 2008 23:27:20 +0000 http://www.bruceongames.com/?p=1121#comment-3757 "With the 360 RRoD, it is history. Microsoft have fixed it." Wrong. Reliability has improved, but the RRoD is still an issue. We have no data to compare the reliability of different hardware revisions. Mainly because this would require Microsoft to publish the failure rate of the old machines, which would result in a devastating class action lawsuit. The 11m+ defective machines shipped before Peter Moore was forced to admit there was a problem have never been recalled, either. Sometimes the issues aren't quite as black and white as you'd like. “With the 360 RRoD, it is history. Microsoft have fixed it.”

Wrong. Reliability has improved, but the RRoD is still an issue. We have no data to compare the reliability of different hardware revisions. Mainly because this would require Microsoft to publish the failure rate of the old machines, which would result in a devastating class action lawsuit.

The 11m+ defective machines shipped before Peter Moore was forced to admit there was a problem have never been recalled, either.

Sometimes the issues aren’t quite as black and white as you’d like.

]]> By: Bruce http://www.bruceongames.com/2008/11/21/the-xbox-360-surges-ahead/comment-page-1/#comment-3756 Bruce Sat, 22 Nov 2008 18:03:16 +0000 http://www.bruceongames.com/?p=1121#comment-3756 David Macphail, you are the typical fanboy who doesn't know what he is talking about. Activision Blizzard is by far the biggest game publisher in the world. That is a fact. With the 360 RRoD, it is history. Microsoft have fixed it. And in the process given their customers an amazing product guarantee. Sony have had big hardware problems in the past but they have never given the level of support that Microsoft give. If you are a keen gamer and not just a fanboy then you should buy a 360 now they are so cheap. Just about everyone who owns both says it is the best gaming machine by far. If you don't buy one you are missing out on a lot of great gaming. And finally the 360 has a lot more exclusives than the PS3. And will continue to do so. Not just boxed games. There is also XBLA and XNA to consider. You should take a look at Live, you would be amazed. David Macphail, you are the typical fanboy who doesn’t know what he is talking about.
Activision Blizzard is by far the biggest game publisher in the world. That is a fact.

With the 360 RRoD, it is history. Microsoft have fixed it. And in the process given their customers an amazing product guarantee. Sony have had big hardware problems in the past but they have never given the level of support that Microsoft give.

If you are a keen gamer and not just a fanboy then you should buy a 360 now they are so cheap. Just about everyone who owns both says it is the best gaming machine by far. If you don’t buy one you are missing out on a lot of great gaming.

And finally the 360 has a lot more exclusives than the PS3. And will continue to do so. Not just boxed games. There is also XBLA and XNA to consider. You should take a look at Live, you would be amazed.

]]> By: Fanboy buster http://www.bruceongames.com/2008/11/21/the-xbox-360-surges-ahead/comment-page-1/#comment-3755 Fanboy buster Sat, 22 Nov 2008 18:00:06 +0000 http://www.bruceongames.com/?p=1121#comment-3755 http://www.ripten.com/2008/11/17/xbox-360s-million-sellers/ compared to the PS3 http://www.ripten.com/2008/11/17/playstation-3s-million-sellers/ So if anyone thinks the Xbox 360 won't have any exclusives for 2009 needs to be run over. Publishers give support to who can and will make them money. Plus Microsoft owns studios like Rare and Turn 10 who will be making games for the XBOX 360 too. We already have games planned for 2009 not on the PS3 like Alan Wake, Splinter Cell 5, Halo Wars, Ninja Blade, Star Ocean, Huxley and Halo 3: Recon just to name a few. God people are so dense just because they don't like something. http://www.ripten.com/2008/11/17/xbox-360s-million-sellers/

compared to the PS3

http://www.ripten.com/2008/11/17/playstation-3s-million-sellers/

So if anyone thinks the Xbox 360 won’t have any exclusives for 2009 needs to be run over. Publishers give support to who can and will make them money. Plus Microsoft owns studios like Rare and Turn 10 who will be making games for the XBOX 360 too. We already have games planned for 2009 not on the PS3 like Alan Wake, Splinter Cell 5, Halo Wars, Ninja Blade, Star Ocean, Huxley and Halo 3: Recon just to name a few.

God people are so dense just because they don’t like something.

]]> By: Fanboy buster http://www.bruceongames.com/2008/11/21/the-xbox-360-surges-ahead/comment-page-1/#comment-3754 Fanboy buster Sat, 22 Nov 2008 17:54:49 +0000 http://www.bruceongames.com/?p=1121#comment-3754 Ahh too funny. David McFAIL you really think the Xbox 360 isn't going to have games that are not playable on the PS3 next year? Grab a brain. The fact is both the PS3 and XBOX 360 will share many of the same games and there will be SOME exclusives on BOTH, not just the PS3 so get your head out of Sony's ass. People like you need a serious wake-up call. http://secondstorygamer.com/2008/11/console-exclusives-2008/ That's 2008 folks. We have no idea what 2009 will bring us so stop the nonsense and biased speculation. Oh and Mark you're another lost soul. The XBOX 360 just can't win? Have you checked the latest hardware sales? Now take a look at PS3 sales and tell me again who can't win. So when you have a console selling the lest amount of hardware with the lowest profitability then you have a problem (much like what we saw with the original XBOX). Both the XBOX 360 and the Wii are currently making money off of the hardware and are selling lots of software so try again. When I see people like you two in the forums I then realize just how badly Sony has done with the Playstation brand. Blu ray is what Sony cares about, not it's fans. Ahh too funny. David McFAIL you really think the Xbox 360 isn’t going to have games that are not playable on the PS3 next year? Grab a brain. The fact is both the PS3 and XBOX 360 will share many of the same games and there will be SOME exclusives on BOTH, not just the PS3 so get your head out of Sony’s ass. People like you need a serious wake-up call.

http://secondstorygamer.com/2008/11/console-exclusives-2008/

That’s 2008 folks. We have no idea what 2009 will bring us so stop the nonsense and biased speculation.

Oh and Mark you’re another lost soul. The XBOX 360 just can’t win? Have you checked the latest hardware sales? Now take a look at PS3 sales and tell me again who can’t win. So when you have a console selling the lest amount of hardware with the lowest profitability then you have a problem (much like what we saw with the original XBOX). Both the XBOX 360 and the Wii are currently making money off of the hardware and are selling lots of software so try again.

When I see people like you two in the forums I then realize just how badly Sony has done with the Playstation brand. Blu ray is what Sony cares about, not it’s fans.

]]> By: MjW http://www.bruceongames.com/2008/11/21/the-xbox-360-surges-ahead/comment-page-1/#comment-3753 MjW Sat, 22 Nov 2008 16:02:00 +0000 http://www.bruceongames.com/?p=1121#comment-3753 Preps to Caid for his "360 is better post"! See Bruce? People can actually present their opinions and facts, saying the 360 is a better choice without actually manipulating facts to make the same but distorted point in a brutal and childish manner that will create conflicts. Take a course in article writing, it will improve your credibility. Preps to Caid for his “360 is better post”!

See Bruce?
People can actually present their opinions and facts, saying the 360 is a better choice without actually manipulating facts to make the same but distorted point in a brutal and childish manner that will create conflicts.

Take a course in article writing, it will improve your credibility.

]]> By: David Macphail http://www.bruceongames.com/2008/11/21/the-xbox-360-surges-ahead/comment-page-1/#comment-3752 David Macphail Sat, 22 Nov 2008 13:46:00 +0000 http://www.bruceongames.com/?p=1121#comment-3752 Activision - Blizzard??? ROFL you have got to be freaking KIDDING me!!! How many third party games do A - B publish for HOME CONSOLES each year??? 3??? You could take the games that EA Sports publish ALONE and that would outperform Activision - Blizzard you moron!!! Also you talk about Call Of Duty 4 selling better on the 360....which is true, however you forgot a few things. Activision - Blizzard publish more games than COD (Or do they? they don't do many more) and Activision - Blizzard are not even half the size of EA when it comes to third - party publishing. So your statement manages to be both innacurate and irrelevant at the same time, congratulaions. Also, if you're denying the connection issues that were being posted all over the internet JUST LAST WEEK then you may have some serious mental health problems......err, unlucky? Fanboy buster....not only did you manage to spell my name wrong but the very fact that you're DENYING the high failure rate of the 360 proves you, indeed, are a fanboy....and a hypocrite. Perhaps it's your parents that "Failed" when they decided to throw you head - first down a well, hmm? Then you start crying about Fable 2 and Gears Of War 2, if you'd read my statement you'd know i clearly said Microsoft don't have any exclusives lined up for the NEXT 2 years, not the LAST 2 years, idiot!!! I hope you enjoyed GOW2 and Fable 2 cause it's all you'll be playing for awhile, LOL!!! Isn't reading fun? Activision – Blizzard??? ROFL you have got to be freaking KIDDING me!!! How many third party games do A – B publish for HOME CONSOLES each year??? 3???

You could take the games that EA Sports publish ALONE and that would outperform Activision – Blizzard you moron!!!

Also you talk about Call Of Duty 4 selling better on the 360….which is true, however you forgot a few things. Activision – Blizzard publish more games than COD (Or do they? they don’t do many more) and Activision – Blizzard are not even half the size of EA when it comes to third – party publishing. So your statement manages to be both innacurate and irrelevant at the same time, congratulaions.

Also, if you’re denying the connection issues that were being posted all over the internet JUST LAST WEEK then you may have some serious mental health problems……err, unlucky?

Fanboy buster….not only did you manage to spell my name wrong but the very fact that you’re DENYING the high failure rate of the 360 proves you, indeed, are a fanboy….and a hypocrite. Perhaps it’s your parents that “Failed” when they decided to throw you head – first down a well, hmm?

Then you start crying about Fable 2 and Gears Of War 2, if you’d read my statement you’d know i clearly said Microsoft don’t have any exclusives lined up for the NEXT 2 years, not the LAST 2 years, idiot!!!

I hope you enjoyed GOW2 and Fable 2 cause it’s all you’ll be playing for awhile, LOL!!! Isn’t reading fun?

]]> By: Smithy http://www.bruceongames.com/2008/11/21/the-xbox-360-surges-ahead/comment-page-1/#comment-3751 Smithy Sat, 22 Nov 2008 09:41:17 +0000 http://www.bruceongames.com/?p=1121#comment-3751 @ David Macphail : "AND EA (The biggest third - patry publisher on the planet) make most of their money from PS3 software sales???" Ummm..the biggest 3rd party publisher on the planet today is Acivision Blizzard, not EA. And Acivision Blizzard makes most of their money from the 360. Just check COD 4 sales on the 360 and compare them to those on the PS3. The 360 wins by far. Same with GHIII. "100% RROD failure rate"? "An expensive online service CONSTANTLY suffering from disconnection issues."? On what planet is that? Get back to me when you get off the crack you are smoking will ya? @ David Macphail : “AND EA (The biggest third – patry publisher on the planet) make most of their money from PS3 software sales???”

Ummm..the biggest 3rd party publisher on the planet today is Acivision Blizzard, not EA. And Acivision Blizzard makes most of their money from the 360. Just check COD 4 sales on the 360 and compare them to those on the PS3. The 360 wins by far.
Same with GHIII.

“100% RROD failure rate”?

“An expensive online service CONSTANTLY suffering from disconnection issues.”?

On what planet is that?
Get back to me when you get off the crack you are smoking will ya?

]]> By: Mal Shepard http://www.bruceongames.com/2008/11/21/the-xbox-360-surges-ahead/comment-page-1/#comment-3750 Mal Shepard Sat, 22 Nov 2008 08:18:20 +0000 http://www.bruceongames.com/?p=1121#comment-3750 Well, the author is right. The 360 is the least expensive console, has the largest library of good games, better exclusives, better performance with multi-platform games, and the best user interface and online service. It is definitely the better value, unless you are some mindless playstation loyalist. The PS3 is decent and it is getting better, but it is still behind in all of those areas. Well, the author is right.

The 360 is the least expensive console, has the largest library of good games, better exclusives, better performance with multi-platform games, and the best user interface and online service. It is definitely the better value, unless you are some mindless playstation loyalist.

The PS3 is decent and it is getting better, but it is still behind in all of those areas.

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