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	<title>Comments on: Is the GPU holding the PS3 back?</title>
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		<title>By: Mikek</title>
		<link>http://www.bruceongames.com/2008/06/10/is-the-gpu-holding-the-ps3-back/comment-page-3/#comment-6070</link>
		<dc:creator>Mikek</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 06 Oct 2009 03:10:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Here&#039;s a real world example. Tekken 6, a game soon to be released in October 27, 2009 that was originally a Playstation exclusive franchise that later became cross-platformed with the Xbox 360.

Namco originally made Tekken 6 under PS3 architecture, which is what the current arcade machines are currently running on. Yet, when it was ported over to Xbox360, the graphics (in terms of HD resolution) are showing 720p resolution or higher while the PS3 version is showing a pitiful 1024x576 resolutions.

A CLEAR DOWNGRADE.

While I am a huge Tekken fan, following the series since Tekken Tag for the PS2, and a current owner of the PS3, you MUST admit that the GPU on the Xbox 360 is probably superior to that of PS3.

Read this for the actual findings. I am not pulling this out of my ass or anything.

http://www.eurogamer.net/articles/digitalfoundry-not-so-high-definition-article

Thanks.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Here&#8217;s a real world example. Tekken 6, a game soon to be released in October 27, 2009 that was originally a Playstation exclusive franchise that later became cross-platformed with the Xbox 360.</p>
<p>Namco originally made Tekken 6 under PS3 architecture, which is what the current arcade machines are currently running on. Yet, when it was ported over to Xbox360, the graphics (in terms of HD resolution) are showing 720p resolution or higher while the PS3 version is showing a pitiful 1024&#215;576 resolutions.</p>
<p>A CLEAR DOWNGRADE.</p>
<p>While I am a huge Tekken fan, following the series since Tekken Tag for the PS2, and a current owner of the PS3, you MUST admit that the GPU on the Xbox 360 is probably superior to that of PS3.</p>
<p>Read this for the actual findings. I am not pulling this out of my ass or anything.</p>
<p><a href="http://www.eurogamer.net/articles/digitalfoundry-not-so-high-definition-article" rel="nofollow">http://www.eurogamer.net/articles/digitalfoundry-not-so-high-definition-article</a></p>
<p>Thanks.</p>
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		<title>By: READ   Cody</title>
		<link>http://www.bruceongames.com/2008/06/10/is-the-gpu-holding-the-ps3-back/comment-page-3/#comment-4528</link>
		<dc:creator>READ   Cody</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 25 May 2009 08:47:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Also what happened with the wii i got it played it first week that was it LOL</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Also what happened with the wii i got it played it first week that was it LOL</p>
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		<title>By: READ   Cody</title>
		<link>http://www.bruceongames.com/2008/06/10/is-the-gpu-holding-the-ps3-back/comment-page-3/#comment-4527</link>
		<dc:creator>READ   Cody</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 25 May 2009 08:44:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I own both the 360 and ps3 They are both great systems but the ps3 i think has really great exclusives compared with the 360 like Kz2 MGS4 Resistance 2 motorstorm and socom they are amazing games. While the xbox has gears of war Really fun cause of the gore and halo it was best on the original xbox. the 360 controller i thinks superior. Also there is a Game MAG it  has over 256 people one game look it up thats a ps3 exclusive!!!!!!!!!!!! But i think they are both Amazing systems i know 360 has more sales than the ps3 but the Ps3 wins and is worth the extra money!! Ps3 is AMAZING and Xbox is AWESOME but not as great</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I own both the 360 and ps3 They are both great systems but the ps3 i think has really great exclusives compared with the 360 like Kz2 MGS4 Resistance 2 motorstorm and socom they are amazing games. While the xbox has gears of war Really fun cause of the gore and halo it was best on the original xbox. the 360 controller i thinks superior. Also there is a Game MAG it  has over 256 people one game look it up thats a ps3 exclusive!!!!!!!!!!!! But i think they are both Amazing systems i know 360 has more sales than the ps3 but the Ps3 wins and is worth the extra money!! Ps3 is AMAZING and Xbox is AWESOME but not as great</p>
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		<title>By: Sierra 117</title>
		<link>http://www.bruceongames.com/2008/06/10/is-the-gpu-holding-the-ps3-back/comment-page-3/#comment-4225</link>
		<dc:creator>Sierra 117</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 18 Mar 2009 12:50:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I play on every next gen console. And one thing i learned is that PS does not keep their word as MS.
And if MS says GoW2 is not their PEAK then you should believe them. As for PS3 always promising games and then changing the release date. GT5, GT5 on PS3 as a GT fan i am starting to think its going to be a PS4 game.
I love killzone 2 but the game is overrated. Its far from getting the stature of CoD4 online (X-box live). AND it is far from a thread for HALO3 even with better graphics. Plus the reason why PS3 fan boys hate Halo is because they can&#039;t buy it on PS3. So as one who owns AND plays with every next gen console i can say that even with KZ2 the X360 is the better console. especially for online gaming. I still like my PS3 but let&#039;s face it X360 RULES.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I play on every next gen console. And one thing i learned is that PS does not keep their word as MS.<br />
And if MS says GoW2 is not their PEAK then you should believe them. As for PS3 always promising games and then changing the release date. GT5, GT5 on PS3 as a GT fan i am starting to think its going to be a PS4 game.<br />
I love killzone 2 but the game is overrated. Its far from getting the stature of CoD4 online (X-box live). AND it is far from a thread for HALO3 even with better graphics. Plus the reason why PS3 fan boys hate Halo is because they can&#8217;t buy it on PS3. So as one who owns AND plays with every next gen console i can say that even with KZ2 the X360 is the better console. especially for online gaming. I still like my PS3 but let&#8217;s face it X360 RULES.</p>
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		<title>By: King of Sorrow</title>
		<link>http://www.bruceongames.com/2008/06/10/is-the-gpu-holding-the-ps3-back/comment-page-3/#comment-4198</link>
		<dc:creator>King of Sorrow</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 08 Mar 2009 21:09:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Welcome to 2009, where KillZone 2 has better graphics then any other 360 game, like the Gears of War 2 game as a good example. 

And thats not it. 

The ATi guy said at the Edge article (2005) that 360 would win in the long run. Well what else could he say about his own product..?

Its not over yet. 

While x360 had its peak with Gears of War 2, Ps3 has games like God of War 3, Gran Turismo 5 and Uncharted 2 to prove that it can be as good as a brand new powerful 2009/2010 gaming pc.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Welcome to 2009, where KillZone 2 has better graphics then any other 360 game, like the Gears of War 2 game as a good example. </p>
<p>And thats not it. </p>
<p>The ATi guy said at the Edge article (2005) that 360 would win in the long run. Well what else could he say about his own product..?</p>
<p>Its not over yet. </p>
<p>While x360 had its peak with Gears of War 2, Ps3 has games like God of War 3, Gran Turismo 5 and Uncharted 2 to prove that it can be as good as a brand new powerful 2009/2010 gaming pc.</p>
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		<title>By: bandolero</title>
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		<dc:creator>bandolero</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 25 Feb 2009 04:46:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>to slim jim: 

mgs4 has no choppy framerate but ninja2.gears2 and severals 360 titles as well thats fanboy talk every game has weakness but what makes the game perfect is you if mgs4 is not good for you thats cool but that your opinion but the one thing mgs4 has flawless framerate</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>to slim jim: </p>
<p>mgs4 has no choppy framerate but ninja2.gears2 and severals 360 titles as well thats fanboy talk every game has weakness but what makes the game perfect is you if mgs4 is not good for you thats cool but that your opinion but the one thing mgs4 has flawless framerate</p>
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		<title>By: bandolero</title>
		<link>http://www.bruceongames.com/2008/06/10/is-the-gpu-holding-the-ps3-back/comment-page-3/#comment-4170</link>
		<dc:creator>bandolero</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 25 Feb 2009 04:16:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>to Brucie:

 I wrote severals comments but yea it don&#039;t see them but that&#039;s ok even if you don&#039;t post then i hope you read them the rsx is more weaker but faster than ati gpu (360) but the fact is that rsx is design to run side by side with cell, the outcome of that is that those areas that rsx falls short to 360 gpu the cell will compensates many developers since they chose not to work with cell they used the rsx and thats why many many games cross platt will look better on 360.
fanboys keep insisting that the 360 is more powerful since carmack said it on an interview, and the truth is that games on the ps3 will simply start looking better and better now that sonys exclusives are been develop some what (proper) look at killzone2 and uncharted2 and tell me if  the rsx is an issue for sonys titles the answer to that is no. i own an 360x2 and their titles are overrated with the exception of gears2, and if am not mistaken is close to 360 limits.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>to Brucie:</p>
<p> I wrote severals comments but yea it don&#8217;t see them but that&#8217;s ok even if you don&#8217;t post then i hope you read them the rsx is more weaker but faster than ati gpu (360) but the fact is that rsx is design to run side by side with cell, the outcome of that is that those areas that rsx falls short to 360 gpu the cell will compensates many developers since they chose not to work with cell they used the rsx and thats why many many games cross platt will look better on 360.<br />
fanboys keep insisting that the 360 is more powerful since carmack said it on an interview, and the truth is that games on the ps3 will simply start looking better and better now that sonys exclusives are been develop some what (proper) look at killzone2 and uncharted2 and tell me if  the rsx is an issue for sonys titles the answer to that is no. i own an 360&#215;2 and their titles are overrated with the exception of gears2, and if am not mistaken is close to 360 limits.</p>
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		<title>By: Your mom</title>
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		<dc:creator>Your mom</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 14 Aug 2008 04:54:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>It doesnt matter which is more powerful what matter sis which has a better games and that is the 360 the PS3 will never catch up to what the 360 is offering  FOr example on the next update will be to install the whole game onto the hard drive with an entirely diffrent dashboard while ps3 owners are crying for more games and a decent online system.Many are making the switch to 360 already cuz theyre tired of waiting for Sony to catch up</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It doesnt matter which is more powerful what matter sis which has a better games and that is the 360 the PS3 will never catch up to what the 360 is offering  FOr example on the next update will be to install the whole game onto the hard drive with an entirely diffrent dashboard while ps3 owners are crying for more games and a decent online system.Many are making the switch to 360 already cuz theyre tired of waiting for Sony to catch up</p>
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		<title>By: bubbagump</title>
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		<dc:creator>bubbagump</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 24 Jul 2008 08:21:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@Jackson:

You said this:

&quot;Yes uncharted looks good, but for a game to look that good on the PS3 it takes enormous time and resources, this should not be if the system is “more powerful.”&quot;

Um...Uncharted came out only a year after the ps3&#039;s launch, and only a year and a half after it was announced (E306).  

The only ps3 games that could&#039;ve arguably taken &quot;enormous time and resources&quot; are Killzone 2 and FFXIII.  

In reality, Killzone 2 hasn&#039;t been in development all that long.  It was announced at E305 in the form of a CGI trailer, because they hadn&#039;t begun development on the actually game at all, and they didn&#039;t begin full production until just prior to Killzone: Liberation&#039;s release, and that game didn&#039;t come out until November of 2006.

As for FFXIII, that&#039;s just Square being Square.

If you look at MOST ps3 titles, they haven&#039;t taken that long to be developed.  Just look at Insomniac&#039;s titles (Resistance 1/2, Ratchet &amp; Clank), Uncharted, MotorStorm 1/2, and many others.

Hell, even Polyphony Digital, the kings of delays, managed to get GT5 Prologue out just over a year after launch, and GT5P has more content than many full games.  Not to mention it LOOKS stunning.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@Jackson:</p>
<p>You said this:</p>
<p>&#8220;Yes uncharted looks good, but for a game to look that good on the PS3 it takes enormous time and resources, this should not be if the system is “more powerful.”&#8221;</p>
<p>Um&#8230;Uncharted came out only a year after the ps3&#8217;s launch, and only a year and a half after it was announced (E306).  </p>
<p>The only ps3 games that could&#8217;ve arguably taken &#8220;enormous time and resources&#8221; are Killzone 2 and FFXIII.  </p>
<p>In reality, Killzone 2 hasn&#8217;t been in development all that long.  It was announced at E305 in the form of a CGI trailer, because they hadn&#8217;t begun development on the actually game at all, and they didn&#8217;t begin full production until just prior to Killzone: Liberation&#8217;s release, and that game didn&#8217;t come out until November of 2006.</p>
<p>As for FFXIII, that&#8217;s just Square being Square.</p>
<p>If you look at MOST ps3 titles, they haven&#8217;t taken that long to be developed.  Just look at Insomniac&#8217;s titles (Resistance 1/2, Ratchet &amp; Clank), Uncharted, MotorStorm 1/2, and many others.</p>
<p>Hell, even Polyphony Digital, the kings of delays, managed to get GT5 Prologue out just over a year after launch, and GT5P has more content than many full games.  Not to mention it LOOKS stunning.</p>
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		<title>By: corndog</title>
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		<dc:creator>corndog</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 22 Jul 2008 20:38:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>#105  slim jim on   msg choppy on movies?   NOOOOO please tell me you have not played it on anyone else&#039;s ps3.  (cause I&#039;m hoping it was just your hardrive is a little fragmented, or you didnt get the new 2.41 firmware, I can hope cant I!).  That is going to be one of the things I look forward to on the PS3 the MG cut scenes (as soon as the systems price drops later this year).  I can only see it dropping after that executive making a 150 million sold target, or he is trying to make everyone have hope for the future.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>#105  slim jim on   msg choppy on movies?   NOOOOO please tell me you have not played it on anyone else&#8217;s ps3.  (cause I&#8217;m hoping it was just your hardrive is a little fragmented, or you didnt get the new 2.41 firmware, I can hope cant I!).  That is going to be one of the things I look forward to on the PS3 the MG cut scenes (as soon as the systems price drops later this year).  I can only see it dropping after that executive making a 150 million sold target, or he is trying to make everyone have hope for the future.</p>
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