Comments on: Let the kids play GTA IV http://www.bruceongames.com/2008/04/28/violent-games-and-children/ A veteran's view on marketing games Sun, 21 Mar 2010 15:21:33 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.9.2 hourly 1 By: David http://www.bruceongames.com/2008/04/28/violent-games-and-children/comment-page-1/#comment-8534 David Mon, 15 Mar 2010 14:06:30 +0000 http://www.bruceongames.com/?p=485#comment-8534 An even better example than Tom and Jerry is Itchy and Scratchy (a story within a story.... shown in Simpson episodes). It is "ultra-violent", as being a parody that is the whole point of it. An even better example than Tom and Jerry is Itchy and Scratchy (a story within a story…. shown in Simpson episodes). It is “ultra-violent”, as being a parody that is the whole point of it.

]]> By: Sebastian http://www.bruceongames.com/2008/04/28/violent-games-and-children/comment-page-1/#comment-5067 Sebastian Tue, 28 Jul 2009 04:37:46 +0000 http://www.bruceongames.com/?p=485#comment-5067 i have a friend with has a 13 year old brother and he played all the GTA 3D Games (in other words Since GTA 3),i never played GTA 3 i start Playing GTA since Vice City. His brother doesnt have the necessity to kill,ram somebody or shoot him. When i first saw him playing GTA IV i tell him a few questions and he answered this (i do it specially for share it): -Q: ¿Why do you Play GTA? A:I dunno...becouse im doing things that i cant and never going to do in real life...and wel...l..... becouse is fun not all in the game is:kill,rob,carjack sometimes i grab a car and start driving around the city,things that i cant do -Q: ¿What do you find inappropriate for your age? A:NOTHING!!!! at this age i know what is everything that appear in the game (even the hookers and strip clubs)...i know about sex and all of that and my parents know it too (know that im know that) -Q: ¿What do you fell when you play GTA? A:I fell FREE!!! Things that i cant do in real life i can do it in the game and i make my own decisions (in case of GTA IV) -Q: ¿Do You complete the storyline? ¿how much times? A:Yes. Like 7 Times -Q: ¿What do you think about ESRB (The company that put the rates to games)? A:Between you and me (no longer XD)...BULLSHI*!!! their are assholes they put stupid rates...for example Halo 3 is Rated M and it look more a T Rated game,they put the M rated for every SHI*,another example: they make a Bugs Bunny Game That Have The GTA IV Graphics and put a Little of Blood and is Rated M...you see for every shi*...i think that the parents r the ones that Rate the Game...Download the Demo (Xbox Live Marketplace),play it,and if they think is OK then Buy The Original PW:Rock Band 2 is Rated T and my 5 years little brother play it say the kid -Q: ¿Do You think that next GTAs have to change the rate to ¨T¨? A:YES!!!:Of Course.I Think that more than a 50% of teens and kids (under 17) play this kind of games (Rated ¨M¨) -Q: In the Future.¿Do you will let your kids play GTA or M rated games? A: Like i say before im going to download the Demo play it and if i think is OK i buy it for my kids.And if doesnt have a DEMO i play the Original in the House of a Friend or see a video in YouTube -Q: To Finish this and continue playing. ¿Do you going to do all the things that you see on the Game? ¿Why? A: NOOOOO!!!!! OF COURSE!!!!! Because is Bad,Really bad most of peoples that do this only for playing the game are crazy or something,And do this thing have a grave consequence,and im not going to do this because is Just a Game...and like the GAME is it,is for FUN the game show u the consequence so i dont have to do it to know it ME:OK.... i see that you r Enough mature to play this game KID (John):..... forget about it let contine playing ME:OK Now I Know that Kid Like This NEVER Going to do things they saw in the games All the kids r going to answer the same thing (if they r mature Enough) i have a friend with has a 13 year old brother and he played all the GTA 3D Games (in other words Since GTA 3),i never played GTA 3 i start Playing GTA since Vice City. His brother doesnt have the necessity to kill,ram somebody or shoot him. When i first saw him playing GTA IV i tell him a few questions and he answered this (i do it specially for share it):

-Q: ¿Why do you Play GTA?

A:I dunno…becouse im doing things that i cant and never going to do in real life…and wel…l….. becouse is fun not all in the game is:kill,rob,carjack sometimes i grab a car and start driving around the city,things that i cant do

-Q: ¿What do you find inappropriate for your age?

A:NOTHING!!!! at this age i know what is everything that appear in the game (even the hookers and strip clubs)…i know about sex and all of that and my parents know it too (know that im know that)

-Q: ¿What do you fell when you play GTA?

A:I fell FREE!!! Things that i cant do in real life i can do it in the game and i make my own decisions (in case of GTA IV)

-Q: ¿Do You complete the storyline? ¿how much times?

A:Yes. Like 7 Times

-Q: ¿What do you think about ESRB (The company that put the rates to games)?

A:Between you and me (no longer XD)…BULLSHI*!!! their are assholes they put stupid rates…for example Halo 3 is Rated M and it look more a T Rated game,they put the M rated for every SHI*,another example: they make a Bugs Bunny Game That Have The GTA IV Graphics and put a Little of Blood and is Rated M…you see for every shi*…i think that the parents r the ones that Rate the Game…Download the Demo (Xbox Live Marketplace),play it,and if they think is OK then Buy The Original

PW:Rock Band 2 is Rated T and my 5 years little brother play it say the kid

-Q: ¿Do You think that next GTAs have to change the rate to ¨T¨?

A:YES!!!:Of Course.I Think that more than a 50% of teens and kids (under 17) play this kind of games (Rated ¨M¨)

-Q: In the Future.¿Do you will let your kids play GTA or M rated games?

A: Like i say before im going to download the Demo play it and if i think is OK i buy it for my kids.And if doesnt have a DEMO i play the Original in the House of a Friend or see a video in YouTube

-Q: To Finish this and continue playing. ¿Do you going to do all the things that you see on the Game? ¿Why?

A: NOOOOO!!!!! OF COURSE!!!!! Because is Bad,Really bad most of peoples that do this only for playing the game are crazy or something,And do this thing have a grave consequence,and im not going to do this because is Just a Game…and like the GAME is it,is for FUN the game show u the consequence so i dont have to do it to know it

ME:OK…. i see that you r Enough mature to play this game

KID (John):….. forget about it let contine playing

ME:OK

Now I Know that Kid Like This NEVER Going to do things they saw in the games

All the kids r going to answer the same thing (if they r mature Enough)

]]> By: Bobby http://www.bruceongames.com/2008/04/28/violent-games-and-children/comment-page-1/#comment-4706 Bobby Mon, 22 Jun 2009 23:13:34 +0000 http://www.bruceongames.com/?p=485#comment-4706 In video games GTA, for example, you have a choice weather to keep killing, or stop and run away, in books and movies, you have to follow along. the only power you have is to turn off the TV (close the book) In video games GTA, for example, you have a choice weather to keep killing, or stop and run away, in books and movies, you have to follow along. the only power you have is to turn off the TV (close the book)

]]> By: jason http://www.bruceongames.com/2008/04/28/violent-games-and-children/comment-page-1/#comment-4525 jason Sun, 24 May 2009 19:05:14 +0000 http://www.bruceongames.com/?p=485#comment-4525 well in the 1st paragraph it makes alot of since ya know the reason i say that is because when you walk out of the movie theater after you have watched a/an bloody violent movie you hav that feeling that you can do the same. i am pretty sure that all of you have watched a pretty violent movie so you know how it feels. well in the 1st paragraph it makes alot of since ya know the reason i say that is because when you walk out of the movie theater after you have watched a/an bloody violent movie you hav that feeling that you can do the same. i am pretty sure that all of you have watched a pretty violent movie so you know how it feels.

]]> By: isaac http://www.bruceongames.com/2008/04/28/violent-games-and-children/comment-page-1/#comment-2904 isaac Sun, 03 Aug 2008 20:35:40 +0000 http://www.bruceongames.com/?p=485#comment-2904 all work and no play make jack a dull boy.....it necessary but not to d extreme all work and no play make jack a dull boy…..it necessary but not to d extreme

]]> By: JONTY http://www.bruceongames.com/2008/04/28/violent-games-and-children/comment-page-1/#comment-2589 JONTY Sun, 29 Jun 2008 00:42:33 +0000 http://www.bruceongames.com/?p=485#comment-2589 Hey bruce, TELL IT TO THE PEOPLE. I've been playing violent video games from the age of about 9. I've played a range of games in my life time ranging from need for speed to man hunt, a game that had such content that it was banned in my country. YES I HAVE PLAYED EVERY GTA RELEASED, they are awsome and a great thing to do on a rainy day, when I'm sick or when there is just nothing left to do. I'm now 17 going on 18 and I can honestly say to all those who disagree with with your side of the argument that NO i havn't killed any one, I havn't stabbed, shot, punched, attacked, raped, run anyone down with a car, done drugs, delt drugs or used 'dirty' money, and i don't think about ever needing or wanting to do these things Im what people who know me regard as a normal everyday person. That chills with his mates on weekends and works for his money when his shift is on. Just alit bit of my side of the story. keep it up bruce Hey bruce,

TELL IT TO THE PEOPLE. I’ve been playing violent video games from the age of about 9. I’ve played a range of games in my life time ranging from need for speed to man hunt, a game that had such content that it was banned in my country. YES I HAVE PLAYED EVERY GTA RELEASED, they are awsome and a great thing to do on a rainy day, when I’m sick or when there is just nothing left to do.

I’m now 17 going on 18 and I can honestly say to all those who disagree with with your side of the argument that NO i havn’t killed any one, I havn’t stabbed, shot, punched, attacked, raped, run anyone down with a car, done drugs, delt drugs or used ‘dirty’ money, and i don’t think about ever needing or wanting to do these things Im what people who know me regard as a normal everyday person. That chills with his mates on weekends and works for his money when his shift is on.

Just alit bit of my side of the story.

keep it up bruce

]]> By: Rob http://www.bruceongames.com/2008/04/28/violent-games-and-children/comment-page-1/#comment-2390 Rob Sat, 07 Jun 2008 03:03:06 +0000 http://www.bruceongames.com/?p=485#comment-2390 Great artical, and that coming from a 13year old of wich is going to by this game on June 7th or 8th, I plan on having loads of fun, and the way i see it. these games are bad depending on how the gamer plays them. Like in GTA IV im very aware there are hookers and strip clubs, but the way i see it is you dont have to do these things more than once in the game unless you wish upon it. Like you said these so called "violent" video games are a great way for many kids including my self to vent pent up anger, as o not actually hurty anyone. Me and many of my friends all play games like GTA call of duty, True Crime. and have so far not turned out as bad people, i live a very happy and fullfilling life and i do play these so called violent video games. I think many more people should read what you have so rightly pointed out. well done. Great artical, and that coming from a 13year old of wich is going to by this game on June 7th or 8th, I plan on having loads of fun, and the way i see it. these games are bad depending on how the gamer plays them. Like in GTA IV im very aware there are hookers and strip clubs, but the way i see it is you dont have to do these things more than once in the game unless you wish upon it. Like you said these so called “violent” video games are a great way for many kids including my self to vent pent up anger, as o not actually hurty anyone. Me and many of my friends all play games like GTA call of duty, True Crime. and have so far not turned out as bad people, i live a very happy and fullfilling life and i do play these so called violent video games. I think many more people should read what you have so rightly pointed out. well done.

]]> By: Mike http://www.bruceongames.com/2008/04/28/violent-games-and-children/comment-page-1/#comment-2350 Mike Sun, 01 Jun 2008 03:45:52 +0000 http://www.bruceongames.com/?p=485#comment-2350 Well, i am only 11 years old. My parents pretty much dont care that i play the game. of course when she got me it she said some stuff and that but she doesn't really care. i guess it is just in the family. My parents never cared about movie ratings (i dont mean like dont i just mean they let us watch it SOMTIMES and if we do, they just tell us to leave the room untill the scene is done) But anyways they never really payed alot of attention to it. Origianlly i got GTA IV the first dsy it came out on midnight. my cousin got it with my bro and i was staying home all night waiting to play it....(My OAT's were the next day in about 7 more hours and i was up untill 4 in the morning and i do regret that heavily) well now if there are any and i mean ANY young kids the first thing you'll hear from the 17 year olds while playing online is swear words, "aren't you soppose to be 17", and it gets VERY bad sometimes....And i have a big case of swearing back at them and i am only 11...it gets intence. if any kid talks back to another 17 + kid who has the game and is playing on multiplayer it will get to the point where you just want to take your headset off (i am talking about xbox 360 BTW) anyways, its a fun game but.....its not the kinda "mature 17+" games like other games like Halo 3. Its WAY more realistic. Not realistic enough but alot more than GTA IV which is a problem...Halo 3 kids obviously know it is not based on real people.....your an alien....GTA IV your an actually person with actual guns. But theres like 20 people on my friends list who have the game and are only 14 and under. The story mode, ahh that is not for kids at all.... I just beat the game and there is some nasty stuff. you have to go to stripclubs for missions, horrible language!!!, blood and gore obviously, and you can see the rest on the rated M thingy....anyways thats my little review as a child who plays it. Hopes this helps some people. Well, i am only 11 years old. My parents pretty much dont care that i play the game. of course when she got me it she said some stuff and that but she doesn’t really care. i guess it is just in the family. My parents never cared about movie ratings (i dont mean like dont i just mean they let us watch it SOMTIMES and if we do, they just tell us to leave the room untill the scene is done) But anyways they never really payed alot of attention to it. Origianlly i got GTA IV the first dsy it came out on midnight. my cousin got it with my bro and i was staying home all night waiting to play it….(My OAT’s were the next day in about 7 more hours and i was up untill 4 in the morning and i do regret that heavily) well now if there are any and i mean ANY young kids the first thing you’ll hear from the 17 year olds while playing online is swear words, “aren’t you soppose to be 17″, and it gets VERY bad sometimes….And i have a big case of swearing back at them and i am only 11…it gets intence. if any kid talks back to another 17 + kid who has the game and is playing on multiplayer it will get to the point where you just want to take your headset off (i am talking about xbox 360 BTW) anyways, its a fun game but…..its not the kinda “mature 17+” games like other games like Halo 3. Its WAY more realistic. Not realistic enough but alot more than GTA IV which is a problem…Halo 3 kids obviously know it is not based on real people…..your an alien….GTA IV your an actually person with actual guns. But theres like 20 people on my friends list who have the game and are only 14 and under. The story mode, ahh that is not for kids at all…. I just beat the game and there is some nasty stuff. you have to go to stripclubs for missions, horrible language!!!, blood and gore obviously, and you can see the rest on the rated M thingy….anyways thats my little review as a child who plays it. Hopes this helps some people.

]]> By: Scott http://www.bruceongames.com/2008/04/28/violent-games-and-children/comment-page-1/#comment-2053 Scott Wed, 30 Apr 2008 16:32:19 +0000 http://www.bruceongames.com/?p=485#comment-2053 "The printed word has moved us to war many times. The Crusades, for example." I'm not sure what you're trying to say here. The printing press wasn't around until quite a while after the crusades (about 500 years.) Before the printing press, written texts were very costly, so literacy levels weren't high enough for the written word to carry much of an impact. As a result, it was the spoken word that carried weight— which, in the context of a "church" in it's original meaning (ie. a congregation of people) is more of an indictment of mob mentality than the word itself. Of course, the printing press also led to the breakdown of the authority of the Catholic church, which in turn led to a number of wars- but to put them down to "the printed word caused wars" is quite a gross oversimplification. If you're interested in that kind of thing, I recommend reading about the works of Marshall McCluhan. Some fascinating insights- although not what I'd call easy reading... “The printed word has moved us to war many times. The Crusades, for example.”

I’m not sure what you’re trying to say here. The printing press wasn’t around until quite a while after the crusades (about 500 years.) Before the printing press, written texts were very costly, so literacy levels weren’t high enough for the written word to carry much of an impact. As a result, it was the spoken word that carried weight— which, in the context of a “church” in it’s original meaning (ie. a congregation of people) is more of an indictment of mob mentality than the word itself.

Of course, the printing press also led to the breakdown of the authority of the Catholic church, which in turn led to a number of wars- but to put them down to “the printed word caused wars” is quite a gross oversimplification. If you’re interested in that kind of thing, I recommend reading about the works of Marshall McCluhan. Some fascinating insights- although not what I’d call easy reading…

]]> By: magnemar http://www.bruceongames.com/2008/04/28/violent-games-and-children/comment-page-1/#comment-2008 magnemar Tue, 29 Apr 2008 07:38:18 +0000 http://www.bruceongames.com/?p=485#comment-2008 "The printed word has moved us to war many times. The Crusades, for example." How does the Pope sending support to the Byzantine Emperor Alexius I against the migration of the Seljuk Turks in 1095 become 'The printed word moving us to war'? The crusades are used too casually in arguments and people should research them a little more. They were principally caused by issues over land and revenue not a great spiritual call to war. “The printed word has moved us to war many times. The Crusades, for example.”

How does the Pope sending support to the Byzantine Emperor Alexius I against the migration of the Seljuk Turks in 1095 become ‘The printed word moving us to war’?

The crusades are used too casually in arguments and people should research them a little more. They were principally caused by issues over land and revenue not a great spiritual call to war.

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