Comments on: An example of piracy http://www.bruceongames.com/2008/04/28/an-example-of-piracy/ A veteran's view on marketing games Fri, 23 Sep 2011 19:01:38 +0000 hourly 1 By: alphaxion http://www.bruceongames.com/2008/04/28/an-example-of-piracy/comment-page-1/#comment-2075 alphaxion Thu, 01 May 2008 08:19:58 +0000 http://www.bruceongames.com/?p=501#comment-2075 The commercially available stuff he's selling is very much a no-no and you are right to complain about that. But the speccy games modded to work on a DS? the japanese games they, in all of their infinate wisdom, refuse to publish outside of their country yet would sell shitloads if they *ever damn well released them*? Even the ps1 titles to psp I can't really complain about - I have one of them little dust collectors and I can tell you, in a single sentence, why games aren't selling very well on that platform. "It's because there is a complete dearth of original and compelling games, it's either ports of old games we played 6 years or more ago or generic crap that you wouldn't even buy for your current gen." Where is the exploration of the platform? where's the good use of the wifi?? There is nothing to differentiate between playing on your 360/ps3 and playing on your psp other than better graphics and a more comfortable pad on the static consoles. Compare this to the DS, where we have a number of titles that make good use of the various abilities of the console (and a lot of trash too, but I digress) and actually makes a distinction between your console in your living room and the one in your bag. The games on the DS give you a different experience and that helps massively in driving software sales. This is without even getting into the homebrew scenes on both the DS and PSP... Tho, something I wish Sony and Nintendo would do is mod their firmware to allow them to run homebrew titles out of the box. I really can't be bothered to mod my firmware so that I can run the PSP port of Open TTD. Lets recapture that bedroom coding spirit of the 80/early 90's! The commercially available stuff he’s selling is very much a no-no and you are right to complain about that.

But the speccy games modded to work on a DS? the japanese games they, in all of their infinate wisdom, refuse to publish outside of their country yet would sell shitloads if they *ever damn well released them*?

Even the ps1 titles to psp I can’t really complain about – I have one of them little dust collectors and I can tell you, in a single sentence, why games aren’t selling very well on that platform.

“It’s because there is a complete dearth of original and compelling games, it’s either ports of old games we played 6 years or more ago or generic crap that you wouldn’t even buy for your current gen.”

Where is the exploration of the platform? where’s the good use of the wifi?? There is nothing to differentiate between playing on your 360/ps3 and playing on your psp other than better graphics and a more comfortable pad on the static consoles.

Compare this to the DS, where we have a number of titles that make good use of the various abilities of the console (and a lot of trash too, but I digress) and actually makes a distinction between your console in your living room and the one in your bag.
The games on the DS give you a different experience and that helps massively in driving software sales.

This is without even getting into the homebrew scenes on both the DS and PSP… Tho, something I wish Sony and Nintendo would do is mod their firmware to allow them to run homebrew titles out of the box.
I really can’t be bothered to mod my firmware so that I can run the PSP port of Open TTD.

Lets recapture that bedroom coding spirit of the 80/early 90′s!

]]> By: THE ONE WHO IS ANONYMUS http://www.bruceongames.com/2008/04/28/an-example-of-piracy/comment-page-1/#comment-2072 THE ONE WHO IS ANONYMUS Thu, 01 May 2008 04:16:02 +0000 http://www.bruceongames.com/?p=501#comment-2072 GET IN! GET IN!

]]> By: Jonny Robson http://www.bruceongames.com/2008/04/28/an-example-of-piracy/comment-page-1/#comment-2061 Jonny Robson Wed, 30 Apr 2008 20:27:50 +0000 http://www.bruceongames.com/?p=501#comment-2061 ARRRRRRR! ARRRRRRR!

]]> By: Bruce http://www.bruceongames.com/2008/04/28/an-example-of-piracy/comment-page-1/#comment-2039 Bruce Wed, 30 Apr 2008 10:07:10 +0000 http://www.bruceongames.com/?p=501#comment-2039 I'm hoping that the oxygen of publicity will shame him into not being such an idiot. I’m hoping that the oxygen of publicity will shame him into not being such an idiot.

]]> By: James http://www.bruceongames.com/2008/04/28/an-example-of-piracy/comment-page-1/#comment-2038 James Wed, 30 Apr 2008 10:04:04 +0000 http://www.bruceongames.com/?p=501#comment-2038 So have you reported him to FAST Bruce? I know I bloody would. So have you reported him to FAST Bruce? I know I bloody would.

]]> By: Bruce http://www.bruceongames.com/2008/04/28/an-example-of-piracy/comment-page-1/#comment-2028 Bruce Tue, 29 Apr 2008 16:19:39 +0000 http://www.bruceongames.com/?p=501#comment-2028 The music. The comedy sets. Readily available. In Stewart Lee's email newsletter he specifically asks anyone who buys his DVDs from gofasterstripe.com not to copy them - "I need this" he says. The music.
The comedy sets.
Readily available.
In Stewart Lee’s email newsletter he specifically asks anyone who buys his DVDs from gofasterstripe.com not to copy them – “I need this” he says.

]]> By: Dudley http://www.bruceongames.com/2008/04/28/an-example-of-piracy/comment-page-1/#comment-2015 Dudley Tue, 29 Apr 2008 09:30:42 +0000 http://www.bruceongames.com/?p=501#comment-2015 Yes, while I don't dispute the central point at all, many (but not all) of those items are LEGALLY piracy, I do challenge the blog owner or any other interested party to find a place I can legally purchase anything in that list. Yes, while I don’t dispute the central point at all, many (but not all) of those items are LEGALLY piracy, I do challenge the blog owner or any other interested party to find a place I can legally purchase anything in that list.

]]> By: Robin http://www.bruceongames.com/2008/04/28/an-example-of-piracy/comment-page-1/#comment-2014 Robin Tue, 29 Apr 2008 08:55:48 +0000 http://www.bruceongames.com/?p=501#comment-2014 This bloke even has the cheek to use the tagline, "Paying for stuff you like? How old-fashioned!" Absolutely incredible This bloke even has the cheek to use the tagline, “Paying for stuff you like? How old-fashioned!” Absolutely incredible

]]> By: CG http://www.bruceongames.com/2008/04/28/an-example-of-piracy/comment-page-1/#comment-2005 CG Tue, 29 Apr 2008 04:50:43 +0000 http://www.bruceongames.com/?p=501#comment-2005 That site is also breaking the terms of its forum hosting by charging for access to parts of the forum as well as the discussions about "subscriber bonuses" (i.e. pirated material). See http://invisionfree.com/index.php?p=tos sections 3.1 and 13 for confirmation. That site is also breaking the terms of its forum hosting by charging for access to parts of the forum as well as the discussions about “subscriber bonuses” (i.e. pirated material).

See http://invisionfree.com/index.php?p=tos sections 3.1 and 13 for confirmation.

]]> By: Richard Davey http://www.bruceongames.com/2008/04/28/an-example-of-piracy/comment-page-1/#comment-2002 Richard Davey Mon, 28 Apr 2008 22:53:33 +0000 http://www.bruceongames.com/?p=501#comment-2002 Sorry but I'm going to disagree that this is the "worst kind of piracy". WoS appears to specialise in the more extremes of retro / classic gaming - Japanese releases that never made it into Europe, old PS/Speccy games, etc. This isn't like a "paid for" Pirate Bay / isohunt which, imho, do far more damage than this ever will. It's more like an illegal avenue into the kind of fun stuff that pops-up on ebay vintage gaming now and again. If they were offering GTA IV, CoD4 and the usual collection of cracked casual games then I'd agree this warrants action. As it stands this is probably about as close to the mild end of the piracy spectrum as you can get. Probably the only significant damage being done here is to companies who trade in classic games. I do not have a subscription with the site, just calling the shots as I see them from the info available. Sorry but I’m going to disagree that this is the “worst kind of piracy”. WoS appears to specialise in the more extremes of retro / classic gaming – Japanese releases that never made it into Europe, old PS/Speccy games, etc. This isn’t like a “paid for” Pirate Bay / isohunt which, imho, do far more damage than this ever will. It’s more like an illegal avenue into the kind of fun stuff that pops-up on ebay vintage gaming now and again.

If they were offering GTA IV, CoD4 and the usual collection of cracked casual games then I’d agree this warrants action. As it stands this is probably about as close to the mild end of the piracy spectrum as you can get. Probably the only significant damage being done here is to companies who trade in classic games.

I do not have a subscription with the site, just calling the shots as I see them from the info available.

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