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	<title>Comments on: Nintendo missing the MMO boat?</title>
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		<title>By: MrMe</title>
		<link>http://www.bruceongames.com/2008/02/07/nintendo-missing-the-mmo-boat/comment-page-1/#comment-3669</link>
		<dc:creator>MrMe</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 14 Nov 2008 05:50:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Iwata is great for kids but if he doesn&#039;t get his ass in gear and do what he knows he should do (Zelda mmo) they WILL not hesitate to fire his ass. Iwata let me state that again, Nintendo will be fine without you,... they WILL fire your ass. Make the #@@#% MMO.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Iwata is great for kids but if he doesn&#8217;t get his ass in gear and do what he knows he should do (Zelda mmo) they WILL not hesitate to fire his ass. Iwata let me state that again, Nintendo will be fine without you,&#8230; they WILL fire your ass. Make the #@@#% MMO.</p>
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		<title>By: Bruce</title>
		<link>http://www.bruceongames.com/2008/02/07/nintendo-missing-the-mmo-boat/comment-page-1/#comment-804</link>
		<dc:creator>Bruce</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 08 Feb 2008 06:10:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>You are right.
I was over simplifying.

My point is that there are far more MMO players in the world than Wii players. Also many MMO players will play for hours a week whereas the Wii is a casual entertainment device so can often lie unused. So MMOs are more important to the gaming world than Wii.

Also I think across the range of MMOs on offer there are keen players aged 8 to 70 already, before we have any Nintendo magic. Flirting is not the only reason to play MMOs!

Lots of MMO information here: http://mmogdata.voig.com/Charts.html

but they don&#039;t even mention Habbo Hotel!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>You are right.<br />
I was over simplifying.</p>
<p>My point is that there are far more MMO players in the world than Wii players. Also many MMO players will play for hours a week whereas the Wii is a casual entertainment device so can often lie unused. So MMOs are more important to the gaming world than Wii.</p>
<p>Also I think across the range of MMOs on offer there are keen players aged 8 to 70 already, before we have any Nintendo magic. Flirting is not the only reason to play MMOs!</p>
<p>Lots of MMO information here: <a href="http://mmogdata.voig.com/Charts.html" rel="nofollow">http://mmogdata.voig.com/Charts.html</a></p>
<p>but they don&#8217;t even mention Habbo Hotel!</p>
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		<title>By: Lloyd</title>
		<link>http://www.bruceongames.com/2008/02/07/nintendo-missing-the-mmo-boat/comment-page-1/#comment-801</link>
		<dc:creator>Lloyd</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 07 Feb 2008 22:08:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;Readers here will know that there are 86 million Habbo Hotel users in the world&quot;

Bruce! Not trying to sound a clever-arse but there have been 86 million different AVATARS created using Habbo Hotel since its inception, the site only averages about 6-7 million unique users per month. I know I have about 12 mii avatars I&#039;ve created on my wii. Also, where reports claim &#039;unique&#039; that means for that month only, not  &#039;7 million new users&#039; each consecutive month. 

I had never heard of Habbo Hotel before I had read about it on your site, it seems to have a bit more of a teen demographic  than even myspace, and I&#039;m sure used mainly for the same thing (from personal experience) : hormone-addled adolescents and late teens to hit on each other/try and pull.   I&#039;m pretty sure some of these users that have been on it merely dipped their toes in to see how the water was, so to speak. A lot may have found the Habbo Hotel metaphorical Jacuzzi a bit chilly, maybe freezing even and bailed out. Just like a lot of half-finished myspace profiles that havn&#039;t been logged onto for months.

I know when I was younger I loved myspace for flirting with ladies, looking at bands etc but now I&#039;m older and I&#039;m able to go into bars and look at real girls and listen to bands live myspace lays there like a neglected spouse, once an exciting part of my life but now much overlooked.

I really don&#039;t think the wider demographic of 5-95 suggested by Iwata-san would embrace a nintendo mmo as, with all due respect, the exaggerated figures in your post would like to suggest. Add to that there are probably multiple users of a wii per household and you see the number of users maybe in the range of say, 63 million?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;Readers here will know that there are 86 million Habbo Hotel users in the world&#8221;</p>
<p>Bruce! Not trying to sound a clever-arse but there have been 86 million different AVATARS created using Habbo Hotel since its inception, the site only averages about 6-7 million unique users per month. I know I have about 12 mii avatars I&#8217;ve created on my wii. Also, where reports claim &#8216;unique&#8217; that means for that month only, not  &#8216;7 million new users&#8217; each consecutive month. </p>
<p>I had never heard of Habbo Hotel before I had read about it on your site, it seems to have a bit more of a teen demographic  than even myspace, and I&#8217;m sure used mainly for the same thing (from personal experience) : hormone-addled adolescents and late teens to hit on each other/try and pull.   I&#8217;m pretty sure some of these users that have been on it merely dipped their toes in to see how the water was, so to speak. A lot may have found the Habbo Hotel metaphorical Jacuzzi a bit chilly, maybe freezing even and bailed out. Just like a lot of half-finished myspace profiles that havn&#8217;t been logged onto for months.</p>
<p>I know when I was younger I loved myspace for flirting with ladies, looking at bands etc but now I&#8217;m older and I&#8217;m able to go into bars and look at real girls and listen to bands live myspace lays there like a neglected spouse, once an exciting part of my life but now much overlooked.</p>
<p>I really don&#8217;t think the wider demographic of 5-95 suggested by Iwata-san would embrace a nintendo mmo as, with all due respect, the exaggerated figures in your post would like to suggest. Add to that there are probably multiple users of a wii per household and you see the number of users maybe in the range of say, 63 million?</p>
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