Comments on: The Church of England http://www.bruceongames.com/2007/10/11/the-church-of-england/ A veteran's view on marketing games Fri, 20 Nov 2009 21:07:25 -0800 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.8.5 hourly 1 By: Bruce http://www.bruceongames.com/2007/10/11/the-church-of-england/comment-page-1/#comment-390 Bruce Thu, 25 Oct 2007 19:55:06 +0000 http://www.bruceongames.com/2007/10/11/the-church-of-england/#comment-390 James, Coventry has a population of 303,000. Are CoE congregations in the city even 1% of that? It is in terminal decline as a business and as a superstition. The CoE is completely out of touch with it's potential customers. The Manchester Cathedral episode proved this. Personally I think this is a very good thing. Religion is responsible for most of the evil in the world. James, Coventry has a population of 303,000. Are CoE congregations in the city even 1% of that? It is in terminal decline as a business and as a superstition.

The CoE is completely out of touch with it’s potential customers. The Manchester Cathedral episode proved this.

Personally I think this is a very good thing. Religion is responsible for most of the evil in the world.

]]> By: Bruce http://www.bruceongames.com/2007/10/11/the-church-of-england/comment-page-1/#comment-335 Bruce Thu, 18 Oct 2007 14:08:07 +0000 http://www.bruceongames.com/2007/10/11/the-church-of-england/#comment-335 Thanks for you input gentlemen. Regardless of anyone's faith the fact remains that the CoE handled the whole situation apallingly. They have alienated a huge audience when they had the potential to do the opposite. They need a Max Clifford or an Alistair Cambell to tell them what to do. Thanks for you input gentlemen.

Regardless of anyone’s faith the fact remains that the CoE handled the whole situation apallingly. They have alienated a huge audience when they had the potential to do the opposite.

They need a Max Clifford or an Alistair Cambell to tell them what to do.

]]> By: James Horn http://www.bruceongames.com/2007/10/11/the-church-of-england/comment-page-1/#comment-309 James Horn Tue, 16 Oct 2007 13:39:35 +0000 http://www.bruceongames.com/2007/10/11/the-church-of-england/#comment-309 I'm 30 and go to a church (CofE) in Coventry where there is a regular congregation of 280 people on a Sunday. Of them, 65% are below the age of 30. The building is packed on a Sunday. I also know of at least another three churches in Warwick and Leamington that are packed to the rafters with young people every week. My sister and brother in law go to a church in Nottingham that has a congregation of 800 and has just raised £4m to build a new church building as there current one is too small. There are lots of declining churches around the country obviously (and very empty ones at that) but that is primarily because communities have broken down now from Parochial Local communities into more nomadic cultures where people travel to the churches they want to go to. Ultimately, the churches that don't work - with old clergy and an inflexibility to the needs of modern society will die out. The CofE is adapting to this and will ultimately be a stronger organisation because of this. The 'Church' in general will certainly look different in 100 years time but I suspect it won't be as small as you think, Bruce. Consider that Christianity is the fastest growing religion in China, with approx 200,000 converts last year alone... As for the whole Sony thing, I just think it's funny that Sony got pulled up for it... :) I’m 30 and go to a church (CofE) in Coventry where there is a regular congregation of 280 people on a Sunday. Of them, 65% are below the age of 30. The building is packed on a Sunday. I also know of at least another three churches in Warwick and Leamington that are packed to the rafters with young people every week.

My sister and brother in law go to a church in Nottingham that has a congregation of 800 and has just raised £4m to build a new church building as there current one is too small.

There are lots of declining churches around the country obviously (and very empty ones at that) but that is primarily because communities have broken down now from Parochial Local communities into more nomadic cultures where people travel to the churches they want to go to.

Ultimately, the churches that don’t work – with old clergy and an inflexibility to the needs of modern society will die out. The CofE is adapting to this and will ultimately be a stronger organisation because of this.

The ‘Church’ in general will certainly look different in 100 years time but I suspect it won’t be as small as you think, Bruce. Consider that Christianity is the fastest growing religion in China, with approx 200,000 converts last year alone…

As for the whole Sony thing, I just think it’s funny that Sony got pulled up for it… :)

]]> By: Matt Wardman http://www.bruceongames.com/2007/10/11/the-church-of-england/comment-page-1/#comment-300 Matt Wardman Sun, 14 Oct 2007 05:51:53 +0000 http://www.bruceongames.com/2007/10/11/the-church-of-england/#comment-300 Bruce Thanks for your reply - I'll write an article later and ping this post back. Matt Bruce

Thanks for your reply – I’ll write an article later and ping this post back.

Matt

]]> By: Bruce http://www.bruceongames.com/2007/10/11/the-church-of-england/comment-page-1/#comment-295 Bruce Fri, 12 Oct 2007 14:13:49 +0000 http://www.bruceongames.com/2007/10/11/the-church-of-england/#comment-295 The churches are empty except for a few old people. Even weddings now happen on tropical beaches and in castles. Islam is well on the way to being the most regularly practiced religion in Britain. Here is some stuff: http://www.ekklesia.co.uk/content/news_syndication/article_060113attendence.shtml http://www.vexen.co.uk/UK/religion.html http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/main.jhtml?xml=/news/2005/08/17/nrelig17.xml Of course the CoE owns the image rights to it's buildings. But that misses the point. The CoE had a chance to make itself more relevant to the youth of today and they failed. They are just so full of a false view of their own importance that they took all the wrong actions. And still are. In 100 years time the CoE will be a small rump cult like the Druids. The churches are empty except for a few old people. Even weddings now happen on tropical beaches and in castles. Islam is well on the way to being the most regularly practiced religion in Britain.

Here is some stuff:
http://www.ekklesia.co.uk/content/news_syndication/article_060113attendence.shtml
http://www.vexen.co.uk/UK/religion.html
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/main.jhtml?xml=/news/2005/08/17/nrelig17.xml

Of course the CoE owns the image rights to it’s buildings. But that misses the point. The CoE had a chance to make itself more relevant to the youth of today and they failed. They are just so full of a false view of their own importance that they took all the wrong actions. And still are.
In 100 years time the CoE will be a small rump cult like the Druids.

]]> By: Matt Wardman http://www.bruceongames.com/2007/10/11/the-church-of-england/comment-page-1/#comment-294 Matt Wardman Fri, 12 Oct 2007 13:39:23 +0000 http://www.bruceongames.com/2007/10/11/the-church-of-england/#comment-294 >The Church of England is a business that is in terminal decline. Interesting statement, Bruce. Any recent evidence? I blogged this Sony question extensively back in July. My understanding is that the "hard" issue is basically about persuading Sony to obey the law. There are various soft issues as well. My assessment is that they thought they were in the clear, got caught with their legal trousers down, and are scared to admit it. For some reason they recruited their first ip specialist in the UK the next month. I'll be having another look this weekend. The link is to the legal analysis I wrote back then. Thanks for the article. Matt >The Church of England is a business that is in terminal decline.

Interesting statement, Bruce. Any recent evidence?

I blogged this Sony question extensively back in July. My understanding is that the “hard” issue is basically about persuading Sony to obey the law. There are various soft issues as well.

My assessment is that they thought they were in the clear, got caught with their legal trousers down, and are scared to admit it. For some reason they recruited their first ip specialist in the UK the next month.

I’ll be having another look this weekend.

The link is to the legal analysis I wrote back then.

Thanks for the article.

Matt

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